Werewolf - Ship at Sea

Originally Posted by DropTheBanana

I don't care who goes down and your just as good as the next imo.

This concerns me more than your vote. Why is the person who claims to have been the only person to nail you as Santa last game as good a vote as the person who nailed the village? I can't help feel that your agenda is different from mine. I want rid of SDM and BR as soon as possible because they proved themsleves last game to be liabilities. You seem to want rid of someone who has an annoying avatar or makes stupid posts in the BC or whatever. That's not what I expected off you, you might think that nobody listens to you, but I suspect that most people have more respect for you this game compared to last.

Let's just make one thing clear, I don't intend to bold you unless I really think you're a wolf, because I consider you an asset to the village. I ask that we get rid of the liabilities, and in the meantime I can try and prove to the village that I too can be an asset.

I think bigred's a good lynch. He has proven to be completely useless the last game, especially on the last day when the village needed him most, and so far it seems he is intending to play exactly the same this game.

Keith let me try one more time to get through to you.

Nothing you say has given me any reason to think I look suspicious to anybody other than to you. Rather, your posts are displaying a determination to get personal, nasty and drag a pathetic e-drama past the point of a joke. It's nonsense which is polluting the thread, is largely out of the spirit of the game and this forum and is doing noone any good. Moreover, you're drawing huge amounts of attention to us us both which is just handing the wolves so much shadow to hide in for the next few days right since I think both of us are villagers. This could actually be pretty disasterous for the village. I'd be surprised if you were doing all this as a wolf, it's definitely not impossible but I doubt it at this point.

You'need to stop taking everything I say out of context. When I say I'm going to skim your posts, what I mean is I'm going to filter out the personal jibes and abuse aswell as the claims that I find far too absurd for anyone in this game to take seriously. This is in the interest of my time, energy and sanity. I will respond to anything I see that is sensible, respectable and isn't just some personal attack.

I'll address that one "contradiction" When I say we should make day one last and get information, what I mean is the longer it goes on, the more voting trends we have for later. On the other hand though, there's no point in dragging the day out for ages when the quality of the information being generated is so low at this stage in the game. There are other wagons going on, SDM's is nowhere near big yet, so I don't feel like I should rescind when it looks like day 1 will have some legs and he is my most favoured lynch right now.

I'm trying to difuse things here between us. When I made my jibes at you at the start of the game they were only related to WW were just banter, it's fun to have a WW enemy. I'm not making a personal attack on you, so you shouldn't feel the need to respond on a personal level. *gulps very hard and cringes* I am sorry if you found them offensive. There I even apologised!

I'm not sure if you have some stuff going on IRL or w/e, but I'm playing this game for fun and have absolutely no interest in being drawn into a personal slagging match with someone I don't know. This is the last post I'm going to make to you unless you can put a lid on the nonsense. I really fucking like this game! I don't want that ruined by having to constantly defend myself from personal attacks. I hope you can understand that.

There are so many better places to take out anger than on a forum in a game that's supposed to be fun. Hope we can bury this and be civil now for the sake of the game and actually finding some wolves.

If you feel the urge to rant at me or you feel pissed off upon reading this, please take a deep breath and remember I'm trying to diffuse things here, not provoke you.

On a side note, I'm a little suspicious so far of people who are loving a lynch of myself or Keith based on this drama. I don't see how it makes either of us look wolfy, given the dynamic, the previous game etc etc.

Originally Posted by Carroters

On a side note, I'm a little suspicious so far of people who are loving a lynch of myself or Keith based on this drama. I don't see how it makes either of us look wolfy, given the dynamic, the previous game etc etc.

This 'drama' has pretty much dominated day 1. Villagers might think level 0 wolves would avoid this much attention, therefore giving you passes. It would be pretty FPS to level like this obv, as the seer will likely look one of you up anyway (because if one is a wolf, likely you both are; if either isn't, both are villagers).

Thinking about the Seer dynamic here makes me conclude you are both likely villagers.

Originally Posted by Viscaro

This 'drama' has pretty much dominated day 1. Villagers might think level 0 wolves would avoid this much attention, therefore giving you passes. It would be pretty FPS to level like this obv, as the seer will likely look one of you up anyway (because if one is a wolf, likely you both are; if either isn't, both are villagers).

Thinking about the Seer dynamic here makes me conclude you are both likely villagers.

Yeah I think it should be fairly obvious to everyone that we're likely both villagers.

Wilbur is making me suspicious early on here since he should be experienced enough to realise how unlikely what he suggets actually is.

Oh hai der, i have srs predikshun. #16!!! Corresponds to Keith.

lynch keith

And you should be smart enough to realize that no one wants to sit here and read through 8,000 word posts with stupid attacks throughout the whole game. I'd be willing to drop one of you if it keeps up, probably leaning more towards Carroters over Keith since Keith has proven to be a village asset in the past.

Note: Not saying we should lynch you guys, just making the point that it ruins the game and no one wants to even have to skim over all of it because its a pain in the ass. You're both probably villagers at this point a large % of the time so congrats, if you're wolves, you're both fucking retarded.

I'd definitely be willing to switch to BR today and do SDM tomorrow.

I also think ur a dbag

Originally Posted by Keith_MM

You're shooting up on my suspicious list as well Wilbur.

YEA!!!! Let's lynch wilbur or bigred. Neither are going to provide any meaningful input so let's get them out of the way early.

I'm the seer, and I caught me a wolf

I'm coming out now because I believe I'm going to get eaten very early in this game. In last game, I was the 4th target, which was a bit sooner than I expected. And I think that in this game, I will likely be an even earlier target. I'm not going to explain why. The latest I could comfortably come out would be after the first night, but I think there's a slim possibility that the wolves may want to get me out of the way from the beginning. Regardless, it would be an enormous mistake for me to not come out with my lookup right now


To the angel: YOU MUST PROTECT ME. There do exist rare circumstances where the angel might be better off just protecting himself at this point, but they're extremely rare, and if it's one of those times, you would already know it. So you must make sure you don't allow the wolves to kill me

To the vig: save your bullets. Again, there are rare circumstances where you could shoot without having as many lookups as I can give, but if it's one of those times, again, you would already know that.

If there is any question as to what to do, the angel must protect me every single night and the vig must save his bullets until I can unleash my lookups


I'm not going give any indication of what my lookups will be, and I would like to keep them to myself until the angel is no longer capable of protecting me. If you think this is bad strategy, let me know. I think it will be good strategy because it will keep the wolves away from knowing what I'm doing and give them less information about everything

I'm probably not going to post any strategy whatsoever. I'll probably only pipe up if I think a lynch is retarded. If you guys want to know the results of my lookups as I get them, then I guess we might be able to do that if I can be convinced it's a good idea. Giving the wolves as little idea of my lookups is very good though, but the strategy only works if whoever the angel is, you make sure to protect me consistently



Anyways. Carroters was my first lookup, and he's a damn dirty ape. lynch carroters

Rescind DanAronG

Lynch Carroters

Yay... I like this game. Mainly because I was tired of the long ass ranting on Day fucking 1.

Out of curiosity, why did you look up carroters first?

rescind OngBonga

lynch Carroters

ldo

Wow.

Rescind SDM, I guess we duel off again tomorrow!

Lynch carroters

Wufwugy soulread for the win!
Lynch Carroters

One question, and one request:

1) Can you rename the original night to night 0 (zero) so that we don't get messed up like last game?
2) Self-lynchings: allowed or no?

Ohsnap.

Lynch Carroters


Question: Do we lynch/shoot Keith now as well..? Or do we let wuf look him up first?

Oops


Lynch DaCarrotManz

Fucking lol at Carrots.
This is vvvvvvvvvvv good for the village compared to last game haha.

tbh it was pretty obvious that he should have been a target given his maaaaaaajor overreaction to Keith.
@Roid
I think Keith should stick around for now as he hasn't deviated from his standard game plan one bit except for actually being right for once. Also, though I wouldn't put it past Keith and FPS happy Carrots to try and level on day 1 I am pretty sure Carrots abso hates Keith and probably wouldn't work with him in the first place.

lynch Carroters

I don't get it. You're not going to devulge your wolf look ups? If not, why?

I think its obvious he'll tell the wolf lookups, just not villager ones for the very obvious reason of having confirmed villagers at endgame is fucking HUGE for the village. If he reveals them it becomes a flipping game between wolves and angel (if angel chooses to protect the outed villagers) and they end up getting nommed almost every time.

Wolves seem to be pretty happy about this Carroters lynch.

Originally Posted by supahaole

I don't get it. You're not going to devulge your wolf look ups? If not, why?

Really doesn't make any sense to imo.

If he looks up a wolf, he will obviously tell us. If he looks up a villager, there is no need to tell us. It just lets the wolves know who not to focus their attention on trying to get lynched. And allows them to kill off those villagers that are now confirmed.

I assume he will be chiming in if we are lynching a villager he knows is confirmed by attempting to derail the lynch in favor of someone he feels is more suspicious.

The angel should just continue protecting wuf till the angel is no longer alive. That following day, wuf will surely tell everyone all of his lookups. Then any connections can be dissected, and the vig can start shooting people with his saved up bullets.

Originally Posted by StillDeadMoney

Wolves seem to be pretty happy about this Carroters lynch.

???

Confirming wolves is not necessarily the best option while the angel is protecting wuf. If wuf knows who a wolf is, he can observe his behaviour without the wolf knowing his cover is blown, possibly giving wuf a hint for who to look up next. Wuf should use his judgement, if he thinks the wolf can lead him to more he should avoid exposing him.

ALso, how experienced in this game is stacks? Should he know that immediate exposure is better for the wolves if the seer isn't in danger? He just shot up my suspect list.

Originally Posted by OngBonga

Confirming wolves is not necessarily the best option while the angel is protecting wuf.

Forgot about this.. I agree Wuf should certainly keep all reveals to himself, using his own judgment to determine his next lookup. That is until the Angel is dead, and he reveals his lookups the following day. The vig should also hold his bullets until then.

Originally Posted by OngBonga

ALso, how experienced in this game is stacks? Should he know that immediate exposure is better for the wolves if the seer isn't in danger? He just shot up my suspect list.

I've probably played WW more than you. And of course I know that Wuf exposing his lookups is going to be beneficial to the wolves. Anyone thinking logically about the situation would know that.

fucking lol, nice one wuf

I did think it was a little strange that carrotz said he was done with the whole e-drama thing, then he made another huge post. But ofc I didn't think he was a wolf just because of that and probably would have assumed he was a villager for a long time.

rescind SDM, lynch carroters

Originally Posted by XxStacksxX

I've probably played WW more than you.

I'd say that's a definite, this is my first game. It just seemed your post was encouraging wuf to share his wolf finds with us. I assumed you were an experienced player, which is why it surprised me. If I can figure that out on my first day playing this game, it makes me suspicious when experienced players make subtle suggestions to the seer that benefit the wolves. Maybe I'm smoking too much skunk, making me paranoid or something. Your hairy knuckles unnerve me.

Originally Posted by OngBonga

It just seemed your post was encouraging wuf to share his wolf finds with us.

I said that he probably would (as did roid_rage). I just overlooked how it would be more beneficial for him to keep wolf finds to himself, so he could tie any connections between other players together.

Yea forgot about that. I honestly haven't seen a seer use this tactic in a while though. Mostly because they get fucking nommed early on in the games I've played or before they can reveal any useful information.

Nice start.. lynch carrots

There is always the question, how much should the seer reveal, and when should he out himself. Ofcourse the wolves can read along but in the majority of games the seer gets nommed and we're left guessing what he actually did. At this point I suppose wuf can hold back as much as he wants, until the angel gets nommed, then he has to spill the beans because he's gonna die.

I'm just hoping wuf is actually the seer although there is no reason for him to out himself if he isnt.I'm happy for the seer to look me up as i am just an ordinary villager.If the wolves want me gone let them eat me , and wuf can level them as to whether i've been looked up or not.

I said at the start that it would be retarded to use the same wolf attacking wolf line like i did with wilbur as i would be guaranteed to be looked up if carrot was a wolf.

If carrot is shown to be a wolf and the wolves eat me tonight , pay attention to people who tried or did put suspicion my way or tried to railroad sdm's lynch through without stopping for information gathering.

wilbur becomes an obvious target trying to link me and carrot as both wolves. Bigred for nomming me , philly possibly for wanting to follow carrots advice not to shoot and continuing with a SDM lynch and carrots first post of the day "I'm also keeping my eye firmly on that philly guy this time; sneaky cheating wolf imo. ". Philly has said that they were pointing at each other last game so are they doing the same in this game?

now for a surprise

Rescind carrots

look at my post 42. Save the bullets for confirmed wolves . well ewe have a confirmed wolf and loads of people jumping on. Lets examine those who jumped on as well and continue to shut out the info for the village.


lynch roid rage

for

Question: Do we lynch/shoot Keith now as well..? Or do we let wuf look him up first?

As just about everything he says there benefits the wolves team. if wuf looks me up and the wolves eat me the village gain zero info. And if i''m lynched /shot the village lose someone who found a wolf and is trying to get info.

oh yeah ....forgot to say .....vig should now shoot carrot at his first shot.

i don't really understand why vig should waste a bullet here, we know carroters is a wolf so lynch him and save our bullets for when we have more info or when Wuf finally reveals his lookups. lynching a random is still a pretty big crap shoot and there's a good chance we just end up killing a villager.

Wuf f 'in rights, nice soul read.

Rescind Vis
Lynch Carroter

and fulksy is shooting up my suspect list here.

We have a wolf ......how is shooting him wasting a bullet? How much more info do you need for a shot?

secondly .....just because we have a wolf does not mean that the day should end and we stop getting more info.Why waste productive time , we may get another wolf to make a mistake today.Let people explain why they want to get this day over rather than get more info.

if your reason is to keep the day going, fine that's understandable, and of course we know carroter's is a wolf what i meant by it being wasting a bullet is that we can kill carroter's by lynching him and save the bullet for when we have more info, that seems pretty logical.

Originally Posted by Keith_MM

Bigred for nomming me ,

Nomming? Villagers don't use that word! Wolves do!

Originally Posted by Keith_MM

now for a surprise

Rescind carrots

look at my post 42. Save the bullets for confirmed wolves . well ewe have a confirmed wolf and loads of people jumping on. Lets examine those who jumped on as well and continue to shut out the info for the village.


lynch roid rage

for

As just about everything he says there benefits the wolves team. if wuf looks me up and the wolves eat me the village gain zero info. And if i''m lynched /shot the village lose someone who found a wolf and is trying to get info.

So rescind the known wolf, kill a random on the day where we have the least info at any point in the whole game, and use up a bullet that could be sueful later?

Lol Keith, don't make me start flaming you like Carroters did. It gives the wolves information sure, but it gives the village information as well. I honestly thought it was a legitimate question to ask at the time. Is that ok? Can I ask questions?

I'm not out to get you, so please cool your jets. I was just curious what everyone thought the play should be there since you've used that tactic before. Obviously you've mentioned this, but it could easily be a level, etc etc.


As for whether to lynch Carrotz or not, I'll keep him bolded for now and save the bullet for later.

Obviously I have no problem having the day extended for a while because its in the best interest of the village, but I think ultimately we should use our lynch on Carrotz and save the bullet when we need something clutch or when we have some strong leads, etc.

For the mentally challenged out there that keep saying that now we know that carrot is a wolf so I must be one as well.look at what has been said through this thread and the same has been said about me when i have hit wolves in recent games as well. All from before Wuf revealed his lookup

Originally Posted by Viscaro

This 'drama' has pretty much dominated day 1. Villagers might think level 0 wolves would avoid this much attention, therefore giving you passes. It would be pretty FPS to level like this obv, as the seer will likely look one of you up anyway (because if one is a wolf, likely you both are; if either isn't, both are villagers).

Thinking about the Seer dynamic here makes me conclude you are both likely villagers.

post 49

Originally Posted by WillburForce

Whenever I see Keth arguing with someone I get suspicious that they're both wolves (Keith and myself did this to good effect when we won as wolves).

Carroters and Keith both wolves anyone?

post 82

Originally Posted by Roid_Rage

And you should be smart enough to realize that no one wants to sit here and read through 8,000 word posts with stupid attacks throughout the whole game. I'd be willing to drop one of you if it keeps up, probably leaning more towards Carroters over Keith since Keith has proven to be a village asset in the past.

Note: Not saying we should lynch you guys, just making the point that it ruins the game and no one wants to even have to skim over all of it because its a pain in the ass. You're both probably villagers at this point a large % of the time so congrats, if you're wolves, you're both fucking retarded.

shame you missed out the third correct alternative of Me being a villager and Carrot being a wolf and me showing where his logic was wrong making him suspicious.Interesting that you were trying to derail the attack on him though.

Anyway , back to my point , when i hit a wolf the automatic assumption that is posted (as a result of the game where i did this with wilbur as wolves) is that i must be a wolf. Everyone just assumes it , SO WHY WOULD I TRY IT AGAIN, and why would anyone agree to participate in such a plan when its doomed to result in two dead wolves?.

Originally Posted by DanAronG

Nomming? Villagers don't use that word! Wolves do!

oh dan I missed your attacks on me ...maybe its because you don't want any attention back?

So rescind the known wolf, kill a random on the day where we have the least info at any point in the whole game, and use up a bullet that could be sueful later?

so who on earth could possibly have suggested not lynching a confirmed wolf as a villager in the past. maybe this link will help
http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ml#post1853852

and what did the village end up doing.Passed up lynching the wolf and tried to get more info and left the wolf to be shot by the Vig.

Are you really suggesting we waste the chance to get more info now and save bullets when vig might die before he gets a chance to use them. Taking a known wolf out is the best use of a bullet what you want to do helps the wolves the most.

hahahaha. well done Wuf. Not sure if the early reveal will work, but we'll see.

@Keith - I don't think people keep saying that Carroters being a wolf makes you a wolf. I said it once, Roid said it as well. You then make it into a massive deal - which is excatly how you play and deflect attention.

I'm almost certain Keith is a wolf as well. There is just no way him and Carroters go at it that hard without being in collusion. Carroters being a wolf means he would have just laid low and not got involved in a slanging match with Keith.

Carroters getting looked up fucked it right up for them. lol.

oh and recind OngBonga lynch Carrot

I'm happy to just lynch that mofo now.

"I'm taking command!" bigred says as he waves his silver cutlass through the air. "Now, I shall launch a full investigation. Prepare the torture chamber, wufwugy you're first!"

"Carroters killed him." wufwugy points out as a matter of fact. "I saw him do it."

"Right then!" bigred wheels about and swiftly runs his blade through Carroter's chest.

"Where did you get a sword?" "All captains have swords, my good man."

Carroters, a werewolf, bleeds all over everything.

In the background of all this commotion, bode, a villager, calmly walks to the edge of the ship and jumps into the deep blue sea. Apparently, he didn't want to be there. One can only wonder about the nature of the misunderstanding that put him on this boat in the first place.



Night 2


SPECIALS SEND ME SOME PMS WITH YOUR CHOICES OR JUST TO CHAT. Y'KNOW, IF YOU'RE BORED.


22 bodies on the poop-deck:

XxStacksxX
wufwugy
DanAronG
Viscaro
philly and the phantics
fulksy
kfaess
OngBonga
Roid_Rage
DropTheBanana
supahaole
bigred
Ragnar4
StillDeadMoney
WillburForce
Keith_MM
mbiz
GatorJH
Donachello
HoopyDude
XTR1000
Jackvance

lolzzz_321, CEO of Silver Bullet Industries, was killed on Night 1
Carroters, a werewolf, was lynched on Day 1
bode, a villager, was modkilled on Day 1

15 Villagers
1 Seer
1 Angel
1 Vigilante
4 Werewolves

As the sun cracks over the eastern horizon, the captain surveys his ship.

"It's quiet. Too quiet."

That no one died is a miracle - like some guardian angel was watching over everyone.

And with that, it's Day 2


12 VOTES TO LYNCH. DO IT!

22 bodies on the poop-deck:

XxStacksxX
wufwugy
DanAronG
Viscaro
philly and the phantics
fulksy
kfaess
OngBonga
Roid_Rage
DropTheBanana
supahaole
bigred
Ragnar4
StillDeadMoney
WillburForce
Keith_MM
mbiz
GatorJH
Donachello
HoopyDude
XTR1000
Jackvance

lolzzz_321, CEO of Silver Bullet Industries, was killed on Night 1
Carroters, a werewolf, was lynched on Day 1
bode, a villager, was modkilled on Day 1

15 Villagers
1 Seer
1 Angel
1 Vigilante - 1 Bullet
4 Werewolves

good job angel.

anyone wanna lynch Keith - i know i do.

oh and 2st

why do you want to lynch keith? Do you think he was trying to pull a massive level? If so major props for him but after last game I am not going to assume wolves are pulling massive levels this game.

PS - nice job angel!!!!

The wolves went for wuf? Seems stupid to me. Glad the angel is paying attention. And no vig shot?

Also, what's with the villager suicide? Has he got real life issues that we don't need to know about (fair enough), or was he just pissed that he was a boring villager (ban imo)?

My suspects at the moment are Keith, Roid and Stacks, but there's not much basis to this. I could get behind a wagon for one of these without losing sleep. I guess I'd prefer to keep Keith alive for now, but then I don't care that much unless he's the angel.

Also, stacks, yes I realise Roid also said the same as you regarding seer info, and for that he's suspect too. Maybe I'm a little more willing to put it down to inexperience in Roid's case. Maybe you're just rusty. Maybe I'm looking too much into it.

I'm probably more experienced than Stacks is fwiw. You obviously don't know this because you haven't been around long, but I used to post under another name and played multiple games under that one.

Just thought I'd level the playing field for you. Old name was dranger7070 if you want to go back and look at my old games or w/e.

I would support a Keith lynch based on the fact that he went after Carroters aggressively right from the start. But I would be welcome to hear about other good targets.

The vig is probably an experienced player, given that nobody was shot.

Excellent job, angel and vig

Keep me alive, and the wolves won't know what happened to them


Please don't speculate at all about the angel or vig. If we play this right, we win

@Keith, wanted to point this out yesterday but day ended. You need to stop attacking me for no reason. I specifically stated I didn't want to lynch either of you (this was before Wuf's outing before you go off on a ridiculous tangent) unless your childish arguments/bitchfight kept up. Relax and lets find another wolf.

Originally Posted by StillDeadMoney

I would support a Keith lynch based on the fact that he went after Carroters aggressively right from the start. But I would be welcome to hear about other good targets.

The vig is probably an experienced player, given that nobody was shot.

Ok now this is legit fucking stupid. I don't think Keith is ever a wolf in this scenario now that Carroters is outed as a wolf. It's just too stupid a level to pull when there's no need to draw attention on each other to start Day 1 if both were wolves.

Keith was right when he said I missed the 3rd option of one of them being a wolf and other being a villager (But thats not a reason to suspect me imo, at least not a very strong one). You clearly haven't learned anything about this game, or are just a really bad wolf. You're obviously a terrible villager.

Lynch SDM

Originally Posted by Carroters

Hai gais. *Waits for Keith's essay on the posts so far*

This is carrotz very first post in this thread.

Originally Posted by Carroters

Lynch SDM. We're infoless, it's day 1 and he's shown what a catastrophy he can be to the village. If we get super lucky, we'll lynch him and he'll be the vig.

Also down for a keith lynch, since it's only a matter of time before he starts tilting the shit out of me.

I'm also keeping my eye firmly on that philly guy this time; sneaky cheating wolf imo.

This is carrotz third post in this thread, less than a day after his first post. As you can see, both posts mention keith, and in somewhat of a provocative manner.



As far as I can tell, there are three possible explanations for carrotz strategy:

1. Keith is a villager but carrotz knew from previous games he had played with keith that he would be able to provoke keith into making long winded and argumentative posts. Thus carrotz had the whole strategy planned from the beginning, but it hinged on being able to manipulate keith.

2. Both he an keith are wolves and had this whole thing planned from the beginning.

3. Carrotz made the posts but didn't quite know where they would lead. After he started seeing keith's responses he decided to make the play that he did.


I think #1 is the most far fetched explanation. Now, maybe more experienced players will chime in and explain that keith is that predictable, but I just don't see this being the case. imo its hard to provoke someone into such an argument as keith and carrotz had.

However, I think part of carrotz early game strategy involved keith. I believe this because of the two posts I quoted above. In 2/3 of carrotz first posts he mentions keith. It seems like he was setting up the argument. Given these assumptions, to me it seems more likely that keith is also a wolf and part of the gameplan, rather than part of some random situation that carroters accidentally created then tried to exploit.

I could be off here so interested to hear what others have to say.

Also,

it doesn't make sense to me to have the vig use his bullets now rather than later. This could be because I'm still relatively new to this game and not quite understanding the mechanics, but here are my thoughts:

The bullets have more flexibility than a standard lynch, and for that reason they're more valuable. As other's have mentioned, bullets also become more valuable later in the game because more information has been gathered. Think about it, would you rather shoot someone 6 days from now and be able to read through 25 posts of theirs, or shoot someone now and not gain very much?

We have to kill a known wolf somehow, so in order for it to make sense to use a bullet right now there would have to be a significant benefit (since we get a lynch anyways). From what I understand, keith argues that by shooting SDM, he's able to come out as the seer or protect himself as the angel. However, this logic only works if SDM knows he's going to be shot. If theres a bandwagon forming against him then he also knows he's going to die. Thus the same logic applies (in the case of the lynch) and he could out himself as the seer or protect himself as the angel. So, I don't really see the benefit in wasting a bullet at this stage of the game.

I'm just about to start work and the as I posted before the game started and roles were assigned I'm tied up with family commitments most of the day but should be on later tonight (UK time).

Rilla,don't we get to find out who the wolves attempted to attack i.e it gives the village info,if its wuf its logical , if it was me it gives me a defence from the attacks on me.

finally , bear in mind that carrot attempted to provoke me. Another person doing that was Wilbur. Who also pointed out that me and carrot could both be wolves , and who slammed the coffin lid shut on Carrot preventing the village getting info on anyone else. Now he starts the day off again pointing at me.

As I said yesterday , vets must know me well enough by now to know that I'm not stupid enough to think that pullingthe same stunt twice would work. And would i do it with carrot when we havent seen eye to eye in recent games.It sure explains him trying to get rid of me though.

Look at what happens when i go out of the game early and when i die early. People complain about the arguing , I was merely showing where his logic was flawed and was showing him to be wolf.He was the one throwing insults and trying to make out that I was being petty.

If the point of us arguing as wolves was to give one of us cover ,why should i keep arguing to try and get more info by lynching others aand leavng carrot for the Vig to shoot once wuf had revealed that carrot was a wolf. In that scenario getting the day over with is the sensible option for the wolves.

finallySDM wants to lynch me .....doesn't that prove i must be a villager.

like i said i won't be able to respond again til tonight so

Lynch wilbur

oh and don't forget that i alluded to SDM and carrot possibly being wolves together yesterday, using the cover from lynching that i'm being accused of since SDM was a dead man walking anyway.

I'm not going to say anything about the vig other than it would be a disaster if he shot before I gave the nod. The reasons have not been expressed in this thread, and I will wait until my day of revealing to present them

Let's please stop talking about the specials. They're doing what they need to do

nice work angel!

Originally Posted by wufwugy

The reasons have not been expressed in this thread

What other thread might they have been expressed in?

Originally Posted by Keith_MM

Are you really suggesting we waste the chance to get more info now and save bullets when vig might die before he gets a chance to use them. Taking a known wolf out is the best use of a bullet what you want to do helps the wolves the most.

This is bollocks! If the vig can store bullets and use multiple bullets on one night, it is more beneficial to save the bullets and not randomly kill a villager on crapshoot day, due to the lack of info available. And this is the case in spite of the risk of losing the vig. However I do agree with the fact that more time spent on the day could only benefit us.

And you must admit that your nomming comment could be perceived as a freudian slip. I'm surprised noone else has mentioned that, I would have thought the likes of Gator especially would have brought that up.

But inspite of the above, I do quite like your argument against Wilbur.

To answer kfes's question, yes, you can most definitely play Keith like a fiddle if all you need to do is get him into a long posted argument, see countless previous werewolves.

But this neither proves Keith's innocence or guilt. But he does look suspicious imo

Originally Posted by Roid_Rage

Sup nigga craigs.

Haven't gotten baf (baked as fuck for you old bastards) yet this game, so Imma have to withhold judgement for the time being.

SDM, Viscaro, OngBonga, Keith, Carroters all looking extremely sexy atm.

Don't lynch mbiz cuz he's my aussie boytoy imo.

Thanks roid. Still...you basically are going with the popular votes for lynching and trying to win anti-votes from me..sus imo.

Lynch Roid_Rage

Don't worry, Keith. If you misbehave I'll just shoot you again.

Originally Posted by supahaole

What other thread might they have been expressed in?

Not sure. I figured the reasons out for myself. I'll explain them when the wolves are all dead

Originally Posted by mbiz

Thanks roid. Still...you basically are going with the popular votes for lynching and trying to win anti-votes from me..sus imo.

Lynch Roid_Rage

???

Suppose I should explain my confusion before someone misinterprets this BS.

Going with popular votes? Carrotz was outed as a wolf by what everyone can assume is the seer, seems like a fucking obvious lynch as it gives the village quite a bit of info either way.

The only other name I've bolded is SDM, and if it goes through and he's a villager, I helped the village anyways because he literally provides no useful content ever.

And fwiw, me saying something like that about you is unlikely to keep you alive, and no one is going to see that as us connecting to each other so your attack is unbased and frankly kind of irritating. Was trying to make your first game last longer than Day 3, gl you sir.

Kieth - you are completely capable (stupid/clever) to play that way again as a wolf.

I'm just saying what I see. Though I'm defo feeling your point about SDM...

its proabably time to to get soem pressure up on the quiet ones.

Village is running good.

Regarding keith I'd be surprised if he and carrotz tried a big level so early on, seems to draw too much attention.

I'll vote later on in the day.

XT1000, Donacello and Philly are all quiet.

Originally Posted by Keith_MM

Rilla,don't we get to find out who the wolves attempted to attack i.e it gives the village info,if its wuf its logical , if it was me it gives me a defence from the attacks on me..

No. As the name of the game is the uninformed majority versus the informed minority, I'm going to say the uninformed majority shall remain largely uninformed. The village will only learn the facts through blood.