No theme werewolf gameplay thread

[Keith]

keith might I remind you that the ratio is already thin, we're at 4:9.

Let's assume we kill a villager today, as you seem to think is best, then it's 4:8 and after night it's 66% likely that it'll be 4:7.

Let's instead assume we lynch a wolf. Well then it's 3:9 going into night, 3:8 after they get their guaranteed kill.

I have no idea how you cannot see that killing a wolf today is easily our best move. If the wolves are controlling the dead thread, then it means we're owning them. Which is just fine by me.

yeah then we lynch you ,baud and keybored and we are at least at 1:5 and maybe better.
allowing the wolves to get rid of people able to figure out who the wolves are and leave people alive who they will pile suspicion on like me for past wolf exploits is going to leave village in a far worse position in the endgame.ACtually , i think hoopy has a point , BID alive in the endgame is bad for village and hopefully he'll realize that protecting baud and ong is bad for the village (and the players and dead thread readers)

lynch BID

[OngBonga]

I feel like you're stating the obvious in order to boost your already ridiculous post count.

Of course I'm baiting keith. I'm trying to figure out if he's being stupid or devious.

[OngBonga]

^ that was at baud obviously

[OngBonga]

Yeah I've seen enough.

lynch keith

He's just stubbornly refusing to budge even though it should be really obvious he's talking shit. He has an agenda.

[OngBonga]

ACtually , i think hoopy has a point , BID alive in the endgame is bad for village and hopefully he'll realize that protecting baud and ong is bad for the village (and the players and dead thread readers)

This implies keith knows drew is a villager.

keith is a wolf.

[Keith]

yeah thwarting your cunning plan wonga. Ong , is a live BID +EV for the village in this format, the wolves will never eat him

[Keith]

how does it imply that i know he's a villager , assuming i'm right thatthe wolves are you , baud and keybored that leaves a 1 in 10 chance that everyone else is the last wolf. And if he's the last wolf , there's always a chance that he manages to block the wolves kill tonight.

[OngBonga]

In fact notice that keith is hinting at who drew shouldn't protect. Not only is that bending the rules that wuf made clear, it's would also be a fantastic wolf strategy to kill a villager d1 and then encourage him to omit 2 villagers from his list of protects, further increasing the probability of a clean kill.

keith is a wolf and drew and baudib are villagers.

[Keith]

if i'm a wolf and baud is villager , theres no way that i'd be lynching BID.With his ability to cock up ,it is way better for wolves to keep him alive. Far easier just to have hopped on the baudib wagon at the start of the game.

[OngBonga]

if i'm a wolf and baud is villager , theres no way that i'd be lynching BID.With his ability to cock up ,it is way better for wolves to keep him alive. Far easier just to have hopped on the baudib wagon at the start of the game.

Wait so if you're a wolf and baudib is a villager, then you'd jump on the baudib wagon early? Even though you're saying that the wolves are desperately trying to throw one another under the bus in an attempt to control the dead thread?

The inconsistency in your thinking is noted.

You're implying that drew is a villager because you're already anticipating him protecting villagers during the night.

[MadMojoMonkey]

keith might I remind you that the ratio is already thin, we're at 4:9.

Let's assume we kill a villager today, as you seem to think is best, then it's 4:8 and after night it's 66% likely that it'll be 4:7.

Let's instead assume we lynch a wolf. Well then it's 3:9 going into night, 3:8 after they get their guaranteed kill.

I have no idea how you cannot see that killing a wolf today is easily our best move. If the wolves are controlling the dead thread, then it means we're owning them. Which is just fine by me.

This meshes with my reasoning.
Clearly, it's not great for the village to have the dead thread less than 50% vil.
However, it's much worse if the living thread is less than 50% vil.
DUCY

I figure: the village wins day1 by bagging the weakest wolf.
Village nets a wolf and dead thread, while not good for village, is not as bad as it could have been.

[MadMojoMonkey]

That and I honestly get tired of his endless banter.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding this statement, but...

This is a game of banter and accusations, lies and deceit... all in good fun.

I'm gonna park on him until a decent wolf smell comes along.

Smelling a wolf is almost never going to happen on day 1.

Parking votes does nothing to put pressure on anyone. Without pressure, the wolves can yawn their way to victory.

As for this dead thread, I don't see the point in trying to over analyze the nether land. And I don't think most others do either.

That is clearly a manipulative statement, and an appeal to emotion rather than reason.

lynch keybored

[MadMojoMonkey]

yeah thwarting your cunning plan wonga. Ong , is a live BID +EV for the village in this format, the wolves will never eat him

My cognitive dissonance with Kieth's side of this exchange is that this argument is so canned - cliche', even.

Kieth... cliche'?

That doesn't sit right.

[baudib]

brb editing Keith's posts

[Keybored]

Maybe I'm misunderstanding this statement, but...

This is a game of banter and accusations, lies and deceit... all in good fun.


Smelling a wolf is almost never going to happen on day 1.

Parking votes does nothing to put pressure on anyone. Without pressure, the wolves can yawn their way to victory.


That is clearly a manipulative statement, and an appeal to emotion rather than reason.

lynch keybored

Yep, banter must happen. But many have mentioned that Baud's self-proclaimed post-dominance is annoying. I happen to agree.

My vote on Baud was meant to be pressure. His battle with Ong got my attention so I threw down. Notice tho, he brushed me off.

Don't know why you think I'm trying to manipulate or where the emotion is (aside from my revenge vote). Stacking the dead thread is manipulation and only you/Ong are going down that road.

I think there's def a solid wolf to sniff between the Baud/Ong and Keith/Ong battles. And I'm still sketchy about Dhoobs. But I'm staying with Baud for now.

[dhubermex]

I think there's def a solid wolf to sniff between the Baud/Ong and Keith/Ong battles. And I'm still sketchy about Dhoobs. But I'm staying with Baud for now.

This is my thinking as well (except the fact that I'm a Villager). However, I'm no longer suspicious of baudib but am more intrigued by the Keith/Ong back-and-forth. I think there's def a solid wolf to sniff (as you say) between those two, and I'm leaning towards Keith at this moment, so I'll go with that read.

Lynch Keith

[dhubermex]

brb editing Keith's posts

haha... at least you didn't mod-doom a match based on a nighttime role f-up with hours of time to notice your mistake.

[dhubermex]

Regarding the Keith/Ong posts, it would be sick if they're both wolves. They both obv have ample skill to pull this off, but I don't know if Ong would employ this strategy early game.

I'm also remembering the Ong/Wuf disputes back when Wuf was Turncoat in my first match when I rolled Wolf, and how Wuf had me super-convinced Ong was off in his reads although he wasn't. If Ong has a solid-enough read to lynch, then I'm on that wagon for now.

[MadMojoMonkey]

The only thing I have to fear from keybored is that he plays the noob card, rolled wolf and gets to late-game without rousing suspicion... and this whole, "I can't recognize a logical fallacy." thing is a ruse.

Frankly, I ain't skurred.

rescind keybored

***

I want to hear more from the late-comers / low-posters. (gabe, JKDS, BID, rilla, hoopy, daven)

Right now, Luco looks the worst to me. He's posted enough to not be "lurking", but hasn't actually contributed to the thread. Quasi-lurking.

lynch Luco

Luco isn't the only one, but he's given me the most to work with, and his content is lacking.

I know he's the rilla, but right now, his only post is to say he's "here". Bring it, rilla.

I don't like the vibe I'm getting from Keith, either, as stated.

Ong/baud... I hold my initial assumption that they are on same team... I'm not oblivious to the fact that Ong-wolf would love taking a line like this (yes, Dhuber, I think he would). I don't know baud, so I can't hypothesize whether he's into the over-aggro wolf strat.
***

The vote is tomorrow. There's starting to be enough content in the thread to get involved.
Get your reads in and get the wagons going.

[Keybored]

Alright, Dhoobs talking sense now. Feel better about him.

Ong-Keith as wolves is just plain scary.

Ong-Baud as wolves should be easier to spot down the road, as mentioned. If that's the case.

Def agree that more ppl need to contribute.

[baudib]

Luco's too good to lynch D1

[dhubermex]

Luco's too good to lynch D1

Wholeheartedly agree with this. Although he's also too good to let hanging around if he rolled Wolf, random chances are he's village and is needed itt. I'm getting a Village vibe from him atm.

Keith is a far superior player than I am (you all are, actually), and the fact that I'm a bit suspicious won't--and shouldn't-- hold any weight. I do like Ong's read though and that is what I'm going on for the most part.

[JKDS]

I cant be the only one watching who thinks Keith looks like standard villager keith after this exchange.

[wufwugy]

mmm - luco
dhubs - keith
ong - keith
keith - bid
hoops - bid
key - baud
gabe - dhubs
baud - dhubs

jkds, bid, rilla, luco, daven - nobody

luco - 1
keith - 2
bid - 2
baud - 1
dhubs - 2 (lead)

Day 1 ends at 3:00 PM PST Tuesday, approximately 22 hours from now. The earliest I will get home from class will be 2:30, depending on what I choose to do

[Keybored]

Getting close...only hours left.
Let's hear from:
BID -- 2 posts, no vote yet.
Daven -- 3 posts, no vote yet.
Rilla -- 1 post, no vote yet.

Some sage players here that can potentially help shape the outcome.
Wuf said no modkillz for inactive, but C'Mon Man!!

[OngBonga]

I cant be the only one watching who thinks Keith looks like standard villager keith after this exchange.

Is that really all you've got to say on the matter?

[daven]

i think it's worth everyone re-reading the first ten posts.
baudib practically aroos in those posts....
Lynch Baudib, not close imo

[daven]

here's what i mean fwiw

Hi
I haven't read my role pm or roles yet but I'm sure I'm the seer?

so, thinks fake-outing is funny early even though he claims not to have read the roles etc which would mean that he doesn't know there isn't actually a seer-ingame



then, referencing ong's post about twenty minutes earlier where he lol-claims vig, again before he has read the roles etc - normal baudib play would be to jump on this post from ong for sure.

wtf that was my idea

but why/how did you have this idea if you didn't know roles?!?


then about ten minutes later

ok I looked. Villager.

I'm going to state openly that I haven't read these crazy Wuf rules for this game so I'll let Keith and Ong and others sort it out. I'm poasting from work now but will crank it up tomorrow.

again, he repeats that he hasn't read the rules, yet he knows there is no vig or seer, and it turns out the rules are actually pretty simple except for the arbitrary nature (i'm-overlord-game-mod-and-will-change-as-it-goes styles)

yeah, and tomorrow we lynch ong.

[daven]

Am i reading the rules correctly in that we have to get a couple of villagers dead at the start rather than wolves otherwise the wolves would be controlling who is protected and who is eaten and wolves could make some sacrifices in order to get control of the ghost angels in the hopes that the remaining wolves can survive to the endgame.

wolves would have to be prepared to lynch a wolf each game day to control the dead thread, big risk to take when there's only a 33% chance of their night 1 kill being blocked...

[daven]

with no specials to worry about surely we should snick off a lurker

makes sense, just so long as it's an active lurker. We don't want to risk the night one saves not being sent in.

[baudib]

here's what i mean fwiw





so, thinks fake-outing is funny early even though he claims not to have read the roles etc which would mean that he doesn't know there isn't actually a seer-ingame



then, referencing ong's post about twenty minutes earlier where he lol-claims vig, again before he has read the roles etc - normal baudib play would be to jump on this post from ong for sure.




but why/how did you have this idea if you didn't know roles?!?


then about ten minutes later



again, he repeats that he hasn't read the rules, yet he knows there is no vig or seer, and it turns out the rules are actually pretty simple except for the arbitrary nature (i'm-overlord-game-mod-and-will-change-as-it-goes styles)

yeah, and tomorrow we lynch ong.

I'm not following you here, Daven. The truth is I quick scanned and saw there were no seer/vig so I thought I would make a joke about that, and I legit did not look at my role pm before entering the thread. I saw Ong started out with a joke lynch on me and then he also made a fake specials claim, so I made the "wtf I was gonna do that" post. I don't see how that is pointing to anything one way or another?

Also why would my normal play be to jump all over Ong's post?

I quick scanned the Ghost Angel thing and didn't really absorb it, I think you can quite clearly find later in the thread where I started reading more about it in depth. I don't think the process is as simple as you make it out to be, and there's been quite a bit of discussion about it.

[daven]

I cant be the only one watching who thinks Keith looks like standard villager keith after this exchange.

snap.

[baudib]

I cant be the only one watching who thinks Keith looks like standard villager keith after this exchange.

Standard Keith is pretty hard to read but if you can go for it.

I am tempted to say Ong-Keith is the standard V-V stuff and I suppose Ong and Keith can get into it regardless of role. But I get a different feel here and think we have at least 1 wolf in Ong-Keith-Keybored, who kinda jumped in on the periphery.

I still like a Huber lynch but his last few posts seemed better, he is still actively avoiding directly answering or addressing my concerns IMO.

[daven]

I'm not following you here, Daven. The truth is I quick scanned and saw there were no seer/vig so I thought I would make a joke about that, and I legit did not look at my role pm before entering the thread. I saw Ong started out with a joke lynch on me and then he also made a fake specials claim, so I made the "wtf I was gonna do that" post. I don't see how that is pointing to anything one way or another?

Also why would my normal play be to jump all over Ong's post?

i figure you and ong are fps-ing wolves... either that or you're fps villager. Either is an ok lynch in this format, if you're somehow (unlikely) villager then you're probably going to be lynch-bait from now on based on day one anyway. But it's irrelevant, cos you're lock-wolf.
especially the timing on how long it took between making that initial post and then chiming in with a post stating that you'd now read your pm and villager.

[baudib]

Sick tinfoil Daven. How does the timing mean anything?

[baudib]

IIRC, I was posting on my phone and then got home and took a few minutes getting settled before I got on my laptop.

I'm sure that makes me a lock wolf though.

[OngBonga]

*popcorn*

[OngBonga]

Yeah I'm with daven.

98% anyway.

lynch baudib

[baudib]

I think Ong actually believes this B.S. I'm not sure about Daven though.

[OngBonga]

I'm drunk so I don't care.

[baudib]

Actually maybe it's the reverse

Daven actually believes this and Ong is hopping on for a mislynch.

Ong is definitely wolfier here than in the past two games.

I don't know if that makes Keith a villager or not, but I'd suspect it does.

[baudib]

Daven, since you seem to be in my head, why do you think my normal play would be to jump all over Ong in my 1st-3rd posts?

Makes no sense to me.

[baudib]

I also don't know what I'm FPSing....?

[baudib]

*popcorn*

Yeah I'm with daven.

98% anyway.

lynch baudib

I actually think Ong is the wolf here and Daven believes that he made a page 1 soul read.

It's really unlike Ong to sit back and watch the village burn down (popcorn gif is wolfy imo) and then sponge off someone else. I think if he's a villager he goes with his own reads and doesn't jump piggyback off Daven.

lynch Ong

[BankItDrew]

After reading wufs posts eight times, I think I have a good feel for this game. Strategy though - not so much.

Baudib - He's playing quite similar to his previous game as a villager. As far as his math fail and mod edit posts fail, I feel a wolf would be better than that. I have a strong villager lean here.

I love his posting style (crazy mofo who posts a lot). It provides the village with more info than the vast majority of other players. Also, it's at the very least entertaining. If you are someone who gets annoyed with it and wants to lynch baudib early - I'm suspicious of you.

Gabe - Standard gabe. I have no read on him at this point. Might be possible if he posted more than standard gabe.

MMM - Good analysis within his posts. I don't have a read either way tho.

JKDS -

I guess ideally we should lynch someone today who is active, wolfy, and not going to screw up the angel save if they flip villager.

I agree with this quite a bit. +1 point for +EV village strat

Dhuber - I'm a sucker for players who say things like "omg first time i'm a villager" in their opening. I understand this seems to be the norm for him but I don't think he has the balls to pull it off again, especially after getting wtfpwnd last game. Semi-strong villager lean.

Ong - I'm on the fence with ong (I wrote this after his first few posts). I'm currently placing ong on the wolf side of the fence (I wrote this after reading his last few posts). I have a very good read on him imo (I nailed his role the last couple of games early). On one hand, his exchange with baudib early seemed like a sincere villager, but his language is slightly different than villager ong.

BID - Boring villager. I truly love being a wolf waaaaaaay more than anything else.

Keith -

this reminds me of two games ago. I posted early on about an optimal vig strategy of targeting quieter people. A couple people agreed, some disagreed. Keith had the most to say, tinfoiling that I said it because Ong and I were wolves and obviously wouldn't be under any threat. And of course Keith put on an MVP wolf performance while Ong and I were both villagers.

somewhat of a similar scenario here.

I was thinking the same thing. Although, my gut is suspicious early on Day 1.

Hoops -

Nothing personal drew.

lynch BankitDrew

Dangerous to let him reach the endgame imo.

That endgame comment seems personal. I may have made two mistakes a year ago but come on, give me a friggen break already. Also, if you think my endgame sucks, why would you think me being a powerful angel would be a good thing for the village?

I think lynching a player who is fairly inactive and of above average skill level would be best in this game. Hoopy gets a wolfy lean for bad village strat.

Rillz - who?

Keybored -

I voted for Baud only after I discovered there was such a thing as a revenge vote. That and I honestly get tired of his endless banter. I'm gonna park on him until a decent wolf smell comes along. As for this dead thread, I don't see the point in trying to over analyze the nether land. And I don't think most others do either. Finding the right lynch is the most important thing right now. With the 9/4 ratio, we can't afford bad lynches. Let's hang the right person for the best reasons today.

This is so bad. Your reasons are so so bad. Keybored gets a wolf lean for bad village strat.

Luco - Nothing stands out tbh

Daven - I disagree with his reads on baudib and ong.

lynch ong

I'd like to test out my Day 1 soul read. At the very least, he'd make a great dead thread angel.

[BankItDrew]

Also, if you think lynching a good villager angel is better than lynching a bad wolf, you're out of your mind. The village goal is simple: kill the wolves.

Of course there is a bright spot in having a good villager as a powerful angel but it doesn't outweigh the awesomeness that is lynching a wolf.

[BankItDrew]

Sorry I was AFK for most of Day 1. Someone hit the nail on the head about this being a potentially crazy weekend. It's Canadian Thanksgiving here in Canada, I had a wedding to attend, two sporting events, and NFL weekend obv.

My schedule is so wide open now for the next few weeks it's awesome.

[Keybored]

Also, if you think lynching a good villager angel is better than lynching a bad wolf, you're out of your mind. The village goal is simple: kill the wolves.

Of course there is a bright spot in having a good villager as a powerful angel but it doesn't outweigh the awesomeness that is lynching a wolf.

Boo-Yow!! This is what I'm talkin' 'bout. Well, this and the epic reads above it. I was hoping that play would get real after the wknd.

[dhubermex]

The Ong jump onto baudib wagon is highly suspicious imo, and is prompting me to change my initial read. I think baudib is a likely Day 1 lynch (besides myself) and this decision could cost my own neck but I think there's something to read in Ong's post (and its timing) to lynch someone who could very likely go early.

Therefore...

Rescind Keith

Lynch Ong

[Keybored]

The Ong jump onto baudib wagon is highly suspicious imo, and is prompting me to change my initial read. I think baudib is a likely Day 1 lynch (besides myself) and this decision could cost my own neck but I think there's something to read in Ong's post (and its timing) to lynch someone who could very likely go early.

Therefore...

Rescind Keith

Lynch Ong

yah...this Ong/Baud thing smells. that's why I'm staying with Baud until something stinks more.

[BankItDrew]

Your reasons for voting baudib (as bolded above in my analysis) were lame, that's obvious. Why does baudib 'stink' more than ong?

[baudib]

Meh Huber's post doesn't really make me feel better about him.

[gabe]

baudib and dhuber both need to get it

rescind and lynch baudib


i think daven's reasoning is good enough on baudib. although i disagree with him saying we lynch ong next. we'll just see

[baudib]

Gabe:

I'm not really bothered that you are voting me here. I AM slightly troubled that you don't care to weigh in on this Keith-Ong thing that looks pretty suspicious to me.

[gabe]

see jkds post for that

[baudib]

are you saying you think it's V-V? Fair enough, could be. It could be once again the wolves are slanking in the background, waiting for the village to tear itself apart.

If you guys are hell-bent on mislynching me and buy Daven's ridiculous reads off some jokes I was making before I even knew what my role was, there's not much I can do. There's still plenty of time to find a wolf, but I'm sure the wolves are pretty damn satisfied right now and will probably avoid posting too much before deadline.

I will do my best to protect those worth protecting in the after life.

[Luco]

with 4 wolves and no specials i dont see why we would ever lynch one of the top posters d1. Im not sure enough on any of keith baud ong to want to lynch one today.

I like bid's reads posts and his rilla analysis is spot on (who), not sure why he quoted my post and used it to give jkds a village lean though.

Both baud and I misread huber quite badly last game, but Im not overly concerned with him right now. keybored leaning villager i guess, mmm is super town, daven seems his usual self, who does that leave...

[BankItDrew]

I like bid's reads posts and his rilla analysis is spot on (who), not sure why he quoted my post and used it to give jkds a village lean though.

That would be a typo.

I seem to have mixed up my reads between luco and JKDS.

[Hoopy]

Good post by drew.

Hoops -
That endgame comment seems personal. I may have made two mistakes a year ago but come on, give me a friggen break already. Also, if you think my endgame sucks, why would you think me being a powerful angel would be a good thing for the village?

I think lynching a player who is fairly inactive and of above average skill level would be best in this game. Hoopy gets a wolfy lean for bad village strat.

Alright I'll rescind, probably basing too much on past games.

Being a villager in endgame is more difficult than picking angel saves though.

[Keith]

vote appears to be
mmm - luco
dhubs - keith
ong baud
keith bid
hoopy
jkds
rilla
gabe baud
baud ong
daven baud
bid ong
dhubs ong
keybored baud
ong 3 ,baud 4 ,bid 1,luco 1 keith 1

note baud and ong pushing themselves into the lead.they are desperate to control that dead thread

[Keith]

change that got dhubs in twice its ong3 baud 4 bid 1 luco 1

[Luco]

keith seriously how is lynching a wolf today anything less than optimal? its the only scenario where we cant lose two villagers by d2

[Keith]

assuming ong,keybored and baud are wolves we get 40-50 % chance of a block on n1 and n2 and likely keep the better players in the game for the endgame. kill them first and the better players will be eaten and we get no chance of a block and still be killing the same wolf suspects. I'm not talking about the benefit today/tonight i'm talking about the benefit after a couple of days/nights.

[Luco]

Your logic is assumption heavy, and I dont agree with it. This game is full of solid players, even the newer ones know what theyre doing so i dont care who the wolves may choose to nom.

Why you value controlling the dead thread over controlling the living thread I have no idea, if we lynch wolves today and tomorrow then their free nom each night is like a consolation prize for them

[Hoopy]

Meh Huber's post doesn't really make me feel better about him.

We've never seen dhuber as a villager.

[Keith]

because i think outside the box ,i was the first to say way back when a seer outed with a known wolf that he should be left alive for the vig to shoot rather than insta lynch. i got grief for it then but its pretty much standard practice now.you are talking as if you know that ong and baud are wolves. if so what is the difference between x ,baud,ong and baud,ong,x. the same people are lynchedbut the later is better for he wolves and he first is better for the village.

[Luco]

because i think outside the box ,i was the first to say way back when a seer outed with a known wolf that he should be left alive for the vig to shoot rather than insta lynch. i got grief for it then but its pretty much standard practice now.you are talking as if you know that ong and baud are wolves. if so what is the difference between x ,baud,ong and baud,ong,x. the same people are lynchedbut the later is better for he wolves and he first is better for the village.

Actually your assumption that ong, baud and keybo are wolves is precisely the assumption i was calling you out on. Dangerous to think you're 3/3 on d1 keith, you are indeed the strat master but you started this strat with x, y, z are wolves which is actually an unknown no matter how sure you think you are.

I dont think youre wolfy here, just wrong.

[Luco]

We've never seen dhuber as a villager.

he was town in anon - moarcowbell

[Keith]

look at the voting though ong and baud are out in the lead on the basis people think that they are wolves. So you are saying most of the village is wrong. my point is if the village want those two dead , do it in a manner that is beneficial to the village.

[OngBonga]

I can't be fucking bothered. Kill me because I'm sick of telling keith his argument is stupid. I'll be the dead thread guy. Maybe I get revived. Being d1 lynch isn't so bad this time around.

[OngBonga]

In fact wait a minute.

People can get revived. What the fuck is keith talking about? What influence does he think the wolves will have in a dead thread where information can leak back into the game thread? Does he think the wolves will be voting to protect their buddies?

Yeah keith isn't this stupid. He's a wolf.

[Luco]

So you are saying most of the village is wrong.

Sums up ww nicely imo

[OngBonga]

Remember I said this...

Keith is either dumb or playing dumb.

[OngBonga]

I actually think Ong is the wolf here and Daven believes that he made a page 1 soul read.

It's really unlike Ong to sit back and watch the village burn down (popcorn gif is wolfy imo) and then sponge off someone else. I think if he's a villager he goes with his own reads and doesn't jump piggyback off Daven.

lynch Ong

You realise that I've posted many reasons why I think you're a wolf, right? I'm not sponging off daven, I think you're a wolf and daven's attack on you looks even more solid than mine.

You fakeclaimed seer while claiming to have not read the roles. You obviously did read the roles because you know that there's no seer, otherwise you wouldn't fakeclaim it for the lulz. So daven caught you lying.

Good enough for me to put my vote back there.

baudib what's your time zone?

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with 4 wolves and no specials i dont see why we would ever lynch one of the top posters d1. Im not sure enough on any of keith baud ong to want to lynch one today.

I like bid's reads posts and his rilla analysis is spot on (who), not sure why he quoted my post and used it to give jkds a village lean though.

Both baud and I misread huber quite badly last game, but Im not overly concerned with him right now. keybored leaning villager i guess, mmm is super town, daven seems his usual self, who does that leave...

I agree, no point taking out a top poster without better evidence (Keith is passionate, but I also think he's wrong).
That leaves us with lurkers: Rilla (actually, he's an inactive) and JKDS.
I realize Rilla is some kinda super-hero and basically untouchable; but I don't know JKDS.
So...with ~9 hours left in this 4-days long d1, I'm down with a lurker vote.
Rescind and LYNCH JKDS