Spot(s) to 3bet bluff

Pretty much asking about 3bet bluffing in general but there is an example hand. 3betting as a bluff is never something I've considered too much because people at lower stakes love to hold onto their hands but I want to move up to 27s once I build my roll some more after withdrawing.

13.50 ko
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $150(BB) Poker Stars
SB ($1,270)
Hero ($4,920)
CO ($4,470)
BTN ($2,840)

Dealt to Hero XX:

fold, BTN raises to $375, fold, hero?

Hero is "santiga" who is a reg running 16/13 with a 35 steal over 700 hands has folded to 8 of 12 3bets. Is moderately tilt prone but isnt tilting right now.

What hands are you 3-bet bluffing here?

He's been opening quite a bit here. My image good but looser than an abc only play the nuts player. Haven't been caught running anything bigger than than raise / folding pre or cbetting in this game or recently.

guess it depends on how often they will spite call with AK, TT type hands. but all-in with X,X generally.

Well 3 bet bluffing in this spot is gonna commit him to the hand or fold... Dont realy like the stacks for 3 bet bluffing with any range. I honestly think that if u plan on 3 betting u should prob 3 bet with a hand that can call off a jam and shove with everything u dont want him to jam over the top of u with. Like if i had 89s and think hes raising the btn to steal i would consider 4 bet jam to steal his raise. If u 3 bet and he jams and u have a hand like 89s u have to fold.

I think that considering stack sizes, any 3-bet bluff would have to be AI. If you have a read that opp won't make a massively -EV call (for both of you) with something like ATo because of the short stack then I think you can pull this move with pretty much ATC.

eh, mobaka your post is a little confusing. Also how do we 4-bet jam facing a button open raise?


Thoughts on 3betting < ai to 900-1000. We get called wider but does our postflop fold equity with a cbet (prolly close to 100% against villains who fold sometimes) make up for this? If I have a genuine hand like AQ and i get 3bet in this situation I moan + groan and probably fold or call and hate life either way. This sizing is just so scary, I guess we could even fold if he shoves getting 2-1 (calling 2K after 3betting to 1K)

On another note, What are we looking for that makes a 3bet bluff profitable: (some ideas, please add)

*Villain has a fold button, this is crucial.
*You have a decent image
*Villain is opening wide, especially from late position
*You have additional fold equity due to icm/bubble assuming villain understands
*Your hand has some equity when called. such as suited connectors, at least one high card, small pair
*Stack sizes: your risk of calling and losing vs how much is in pot. If you are 3bet shoving all-in the I would say you want around 4-8 times (assuming sng with little/no ante value and stnd open size) the raise size. <<<made up #s, please add your thoughts. Enough good fold equity and not too much risk for a small reward.
*Also stack sizes in the above example put pressure on button because he can bubble but we will still have 2.000 chips if we lose.

You are villain and you have AQo, how fast (if) are you mucking this. He has no reason to believe I'd 3bet wider than 22+ ATs AJ KQs and maybe a suspicion that I could 3bet as bluff.

He snapcalled I found that very surprising considering he is a huge winner in both sngs and mtts.

i don't know how this satinga guy is winning so much, have played with him a few times, seen him 3 barrel semi bluff his whole stack against a calling station with J high FD. and shove K8s 5 handed UTG, he was short stacked but still had 8 BB at 50-100?? maybe i'm missing something in SnG's

Originally Posted by fulksy

i don't know how this satinga guy is winning so much, have played with him a few times, seen him 3 barrel semi bluff his whole stack against a calling station with J high FD. and shove K8s 5 handed UTG, he was short stacked but still had 8 BB at 50-100?? maybe i'm missing something in SnG's

he tilts hard. I've been on 6 tables with him and he shoves his 15+ bb stack over and over way too light all the sudden but is a nit 85% of the time. He is pwning high stakes mtts. He's also Brazilian.