AQo - nothing off flop

PokerStars Game #2045182210: Tournament #9754454, Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2005/07/06 - 15:58:16 (ET)
Table '9754454 1' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: java2441 (3455 in chips)
Seat 3: bdar (3385 in chips)
Seat 4: Dingo68 (2475 in chips)
Seat 5: diamond-nell (6500 in chips)
Seat 6: derek 99 (3315 in chips)
Seat 7: ti ta tinus (4640 in chips)
Seat 8: dudong (700 in chips)
Seat 9: ahssoccer23 (2530 in chips)
bdar: posts small blind 50
Dingo68: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ahssoccer23 [Qh As]
diamond-nell: raises 100 to 200
derek 99: folds
ti ta tinus: calls 200
dudong: folds
ahssoccer23: raises 600 to 800
java2441: folds
bdar: folds
Dingo68: folds
diamond-nell: calls 600
ti ta tinus: calls 600
*** FLOP *** [2c 7h 8d]
diamond-nell: checks
ti ta tinus: checks
ahssoccer23: . . . . . .

What would you do in this situation, when completly missing the flop with two callers after a preflop raise?

With 2 callers I check.

what is your table image? I'm a little stunned you got two calls on a re raise. If you've been agg this smells like a slow played TT/JJ/set, I'd be tempted to check.... plus you can't really bet here without moving in.

pots at ~2400.

You have ~1700.

A feasible continuation bet would be at least 1200. Even if it were one person, It would be iffy, and you would be better off pushing than raising (I mean if you bet 1200, with 500 chips left, wat on the turn is going to make you fold? The pot is HUGE).

You could also make a feeler bet, the board isnt necessarily draw heavy. There is a straight draw but Im not sure if anyone has the draw. 700 into a 2400 pot might be a waste though.

Im not real sure. I say just check it. If you pick up an A or Q on the turn. I say you have the best hand.

Check.

I would push here. VQ has hit it here that u don't really have enough to fire a continuation bet. You've repped AA, KK by re-raising so, by them checking it to u, IMO, u have license to fire away.

What about reads on the players? Any of them shown tricky/slow-play tendancies up 'til here? What kind of hands will they call raises with?

What buy-in is this? (I know it seems silly, but I think it definitely has a bearing on your move)

incidentally, why did u re-raise with only AQo, especially when the initial raise came from UTG?

I'd check here and be rdy to fold if i didn't improve and they bet in to me. If they are willing to call your re-raise they will call with any part of the flop or a mid PP if you go all in.

I also think the re-raise is loose, unless you had player reads.

dont reraise preflop

could you push preflop?

Originally Posted by Staresy

incidentally, why did u re-raise with only AQo, especially when the initial raise came from UTG?

This kid had raised every pot in the UTG position, so I figured I would reraise to see where I stood with my AQ. I figured if he had a high pocket pair he would probably push, and he didn't so I figured he had two high cards or a mid-pocket pair. When the flop hit and they both checked to me this is what I did:

ahssoccer23: bets 1530 and is all-in
diamond-nell: folds
ti ta tinus: folds
ahssoccer23 collected 2550 from pot
ahssoccer23: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2550 | Rake 0
Board [2c 7h 8d]
Seat 1: java2441 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: bdar (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Dingo68 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: diamond-nell folded on the Flop
Seat 6: derek 99 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: ti ta tinus folded on the Flop
Seat 8: dudong folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: ahssoccer23 collected (2550)

I knew it was all or nothing, and I needed to pick up chips soon if I wanted to compete at the final table. This seemed like a big enough pot to help me proceed through the tournament and I felt weakness in both players: so I was willing to risk my chips for it. To quote Amir Vahedi "In order to live, you must be willing to die."

Too risky of a play?

nice play considerign your strong read of UTG, you only really have to worry about the other OP.

My question is should you push (which may look like a desperation bluff) or make a continuation bet of 1300 which may look a bit more scary. (obv your pot commited with this move, but it maye have more fold equity?)

This kid had raised every pot in the UTG position

And the reason you neglected to include this info was....? Completly changes the hand.

I like it. Looks like you have a high PP with the PF re-raise. Might as well continue bet it with a push and hope for the best. Unless someone has a nice pocket pair themselves they aren't calling you.

Lol what kind of play is raising UTG all the time? Never heard of that type of blind steal.

In situations like this it is almost as important to have reads on the players left to act. In this situation you were called cold-called from behind. If you had isolation with UTG, then I could almost stomach an allin move on the flop. You have action and will probably be called this time. Check/Fold the flop. Re-raise to see where you stand with AQo is a mistake.

Originally Posted by daluchy

Lol what kind of play is raising UTG all the time? Never heard of that type of blind steal.

on the $5 Sngs, you see it all the time. Second or third hand in ... allin for 45 chips. You have to laugh.