14bb stack with QQ (no reads)

------HAND 2------
Game #872089143: Texas Hold'em No Limit (50/100) - 2005/08/17 - 14:30:55 (ET)
Table "£3K_GTD 949342 - 27" Seat 3 is the button.
Seat 1: Noseyboy (2535 in chips)
Seat 3: Boblicks (3820 in chips)
Seat 4: Jamie026 (2205 in chips)
Seat 5: cainer (1505 in chips)
Seat 6: fumbduck (7920 in chips)
Seat 7: Cjmoney (2665 in chips)
Seat 8: journey75 (1415 in chips)
Seat 9: bbig pet (2600 in chips)
Seat 10: stevstev (2395 in chips)
Jamie026: posts small blind 50
cainer: posts big blind 100
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to journey75 [Qh Qd]
fumbduck: folds
Cjmoney: folds
journey75: raises to 300
bbig pet: folds
stevstev: folds
Noseyboy: folds
Boblicks: calls 300
Jamie026: folds
cainer: folds
----- FLOP ----- [Ah 3s Td]
journey75: checks
Boblicks: bets 100
journey75: folds
Returned uncalled bets 100 to Boblicks
Boblicks: doesn't show hand
Boblicks collected 750 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot 750 Main pot 750 Rake 0
Board [Ah 3s Td]
Seat 1: Noseyboy folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Boblicks (button) collected 750
Seat 4: Jamie026 (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: cainer (big blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: fumbduck folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Cjmoney folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: journey75 folded on the Flop
Seat 9: bbig pet folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: stevstev folded before Flop (didn't bet)


too weak? push preflop?

PF bet was fine. Bet half the pot on the flop. If he calls, without any reads, I would fold.

Pushing PF would be extremely stupid imo if you think that the players have any idea what they are doing. If you think they will call you with crap, go ahead and push..

i just didnt think i could elicit a fold at these stakes (10+1gbp) if he had top pair.

bettin half the pot could of been bad for this situation .. your M is a little over 9 .. which more or less u need to double up soon .. u either need to make a decision after the flop that ur sticking w/ ur hand or folding it .. it depends on u .. but bettin half the pot would off put 600 of ur 1400 chips and if he comes over the top ur in a all in or fold moment .. now if u bet 600 and fold later in the hand your M is now down to 5 and almost any A x ur in a all in moment heads up .. u have to have a read to make a play .. lookin at this hand when the ace flopped it was most likely the right play esp w/ online plays playin A trey suited

Journey, how do you know he has top pair. He he's got like a middle PP he will make this really weak stab at the pot and try to take it from you, this bet because you had no reads..

check raise his small bet to $300. If he goes over the top, fold. He might fold to your check raise, if he calls he probably has Ax, then
check/fold if you don't improve on the turn. He might even check the turn, worried about your previous check raise.

u either need to make a decision after the flop that ur sticking w/ ur hand or folding it ..

Poor thought process and misunderstanding the "M" System. This is tooooooootally still in the first hour of a tournament. You dont "need" to double up here. This is more HoH1 then HoH2 and should be treated as such.

call the flop. see what he does on turn. if he checks behind, check/call river. if he bets a reasonable amount on turn, call and then lead for a small bet on the river. if he bets alot on the turn, fold.

It looks to him like you could easily have an ace here, you were the pre flop raiser. You could have AK/AQ/AJ...You bet half the pot, if he calls he has aces beat, and therefore Q's beat. You can check/fold teh turn if you dont improve. If he folds to your flop bet, you win. By betting half the pot you're getting 2:1 to take a stab at it, and i think you'll get a fold at least 1/3rd of the time if not more. By checking you give him the opportunity to steal because he can rep the ace with position.

Originally Posted by gabe

call the flop. see what he does on turn. if he checks behind, check/call river. if he bets a reasonable amount on turn, call and then lead for a small bet on the river. if he bets alot on the turn, fold.

interesting, you dont think my chips are better saved for another opportunity? postflop play in mtts is by far my biggest weakness.

About anyone will bet a flop, but the turn is a different story.

Originally Posted by journey075

Originally Posted by gabe

call the flop. see what he does on turn. if he checks behind, check/call river. if he bets a reasonable amount on turn, call and then lead for a small bet on the river. if he bets alot on the turn, fold.

interesting, you dont think my chips are better saved for another opportunity? postflop play in mtts is by far my biggest weakness.

he bet 1/7th of the pot, it doesn't cost much to call and his bet doesn't show much weakness to begin with.

2 options in my repertoire:

Push preflop with a wide range of hands, as well as monsters like QQ, remembering that an overcard will Flop about 40% of the time- read dependent

A continuation bet on the Flop- Being in Push/Fold mode isn't that bad. You still have FE and one double up and you're right back to medium stackdom. If he folds it's candy.