Quote Originally Posted by chardrian View Post
I agree that this is a leak many online players have. But it usually doesn't end up being that big of a leak because it is a rare situation when you will have enough hands to actually have a good read on your remaining players.

How often are we really going to know if the players behind us are reshipping wide?

How often are we really going to know if the players behind us are coldcalling fiends?

In most tournaments, these reads are going to be based on maybe one or two previous hands that we have seen. I am not saying that these reads should be totally discounted, but as a fallback knowing that shoving is better than folding here is what is most important. Should we always be thinking about what play is optimal? Of course. Are we usually going to have enough information in a tourney so that we can be pretty certain that the play we are making is optimal? Almost never.

This is just one of those situations that I don't think matters that much. Shoving as a fallback seems fine to me. Minraising as a fallback seems fine too.
Not going to disagree with any of this.