Quote Originally Posted by Icanhastreebet View Post
AJo is not a good hand postflop 20bb deep. It's so easy for someone to just flop anything and get us to fold basically. A hand like 97s is doing REALLY well v us pre-flop and they are getting amazing pot odds. If he is is going to be defending 20%(and most of this consists of 3bing) v a 2.5x but defending 30% v a 2x. We want to be 2.5xing. BB can basically defend a tonne and c/f a tonne if we are minraising.

If you don't understand this I believe you probably are not defending your BB enough in shortstack situations(edit: In any situation probably). Folding like 97o is a pretty huge mistake v a super wide btn steal range(60%) if it's a minraise. People used to say oh you shouldn't defend if you are going to be just c/f a tonne cause it's lighting money on fire but this is just a retarded bullshit way to reduce variance in the short term as any edge we gain decreases it in the long term. Basically filter for hands you are flatting in the BB at the moment. Remember anything > -1bb is a huge huge success. If you are doing much better then this at the moment with your flatting range v steals then you should add in another teir of hands.
I understand that we're not flopping anything most of the time but surely vs. a wide defending range we're doing fine.

Is the extra fold equity gained offset by the fact that we're playing against a stronger range when they call? Surely we'd rather have them call with A7o and JTo than fold those hands?