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  1. #1

    Default BvB turn play

    Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    Hero (SB): 102.64 BB
    BB: 101.4 BB (VPIP: 20.87, PFR: 17.72, 3Bet Preflop: 8.24, Hands: 263)
    UTG: 111.04 BB (VPIP: 21.83, PFR: 18.02, 3Bet Preflop: 7.25, Hands: 1,382)
    CO: 164.8 BB (VPIP: 22.69, PFR: 16.48, 3Bet Preflop: 6.89, Hands: 926)
    BTN: 48.92 BB (VPIP: 23.66, PFR: 20.61, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 134)

    Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

    Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has

    fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB

    Flop: (6 BB, 2 players)
    Hero bets 3.8 BB, BB calls 3.8 BB

    Turn: (13.6 BB, 2 players)
    Hero bets 8.6 BB, BB raises to 25.8 BB, Hero ??
    Last edited by acg123; 03-01-2015 at 10:59 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acg123 View Post
    Turn: (13.6 BB, 2 players)
    Hero bets 8.6 BB, BB raises to 25.8 BB, Hero ??
    1) Assigns a range to Villain that is consistent with Villain's actions on every decision point up to now.
  3. #3
    This is a really easy fold against like everyone.

    Why do you want to do anything but fold?
  4. #4
    fold. you have the card he's most likely bluffing with. the calling range you beat when you hit your flush otr is probably not enough for value.
  5. #5
    Good (but high variance) spot for villain to bluff. Not that he is.
  6. #6
    we have to call 17.2 to win 48. so bet/(bet+pot) = 26.38 equity needed.

    I was thinking OTT hands like KT,QT,JT,T9 with a spade would raise, given his 3b stat he would 3b TT+,AQs+,AQo+ his small PPs(22-99) would prob flat OTT. so OTT I expect his range to be TP, set ( A3s,34s) , maybe T8.

    equilab=


    Board: 3dTs3s8s
    Equity Win Tie
    MP2 74.51% 74.51% 0.00% { A3s, T8s, KsTs, QsTs, JsTs, Ts9s, T8o, KsTd, KsTh, KsTc, QsTd, QsTh, QsTc, JsTd, JsTh, JsTc, Td9s, Th9s, Tc9s }
    MP3 25.49% 25.49% 0.00% { As9h }
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  7. #7
    TT, 88, 33 may flat. But raising is still possible. We can't discount that without actual reads. In fact, I would argue that raising full houses/quads is good to maximize value vs made flushes.
    Last edited by tiltingdonkey; 03-03-2015 at 08:49 AM.
  8. #8
    Pot odds? No.
    Implied odds? No.
    Reverse implied odds? Yes.

    This is a ludicrously easy fold.
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  9. #9
    This is either a fold or a jam. Definitely not a call OOP.

    Far closer to a fold than a jam imo. I supppose if someone was very spashy and you had reads that he likes making moves a ton , then I could see a jam in some scenarios.
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