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Originally Posted by boutron
BigSlick, if you're opponents are exploitable by calling large cbets with weak hands, the only wrong thing you can do is not exploit them.
There are so many players that desperately want to see if their runner, runner draw, 2nd pair, PP is going to hit the turn, they will call ridiculous amounts. They simply don't have any idea about pot/implied odds. So, bet the maximum amount that their worse hand or draw will call. Obviously, this is all very read dependent.
Earlier tonight, I bet about 1.25x the pot on the flop and turn w only a T high TPTK. I did it because the opponent routinely calls down with any pair any kicker. With the extra large bets, I was able to easily get the stacks in by the river. I took his stack with top pair on a T high board. There are only a handful of opponents that I would try that against.
Note that this makes YOU exploitable in that you are not going to bet as much when you cbet air so you only follow this strategy against the fish who are not paying attention.
Against attentive regs, your cbet needs to be based primarily on the texture of the board with, of course, some consideration of your opponent. I'm going to bet more against a reg who likes to float, for instance. What I won't do is bet more based on the strength of my hand. Regs will pick up on that. I also don't want to bet so much that all worse hands will fold. That's where the 1/2 bet on dry boards and 3/4 or so on wet boards guideline comes from.
I'll be interested to hear the thoughts of others.
Great post. Thank you.
The only thing that I can add is that I do tend to polarize my ranges quite a bit at this point and am generally finding that I'm far, far less readable than I was even 10k hands ago. As a result, I'm getting a lot of huge cbet calls when I'm actually hitting the board and a lot of folds when I'm not. The really laggy, fishy players who run like 48/21/13 and what not are really struggling with this because the entire platform of their strategy is just to call, call, call, bet huge, bluff huge, and try to take down every pot they can like this. A few times recently they have just refused to believe that I was holding what I was clearly representing and they called off their whole stack on a ridiculous overshove by me on the river when they were holding as weak as middle pair and I had a set or a full house.
Not that this involved a huge cbet, but it's still a perfect example of what I just discuss:
Revolution Gaming Network - $0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BB: $5.30 (VPIP: 23.16, PFR: 16.45, 3Bet Preflop: 6.75, Hands: 1,076)
Hero (UTG): $4.58
CO: $12.55 (VPIP: 23.30, PFR: 5.83, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 106)
BTN: $11.05 (VPIP: 28.29, PFR: 23.36, 3Bet Preflop: 6.44, Hands: 877)
SB: $4.47 (VPIP: 54.72, PFR: 15.09, 3Bet Preflop: 4.00, Hands: 109)
SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.04
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.06) Hero has T T
Hero raises to $0.12, fold, fold, SB calls $0.10, fold
Flop: ($0.28, 2 players) T 3 4
SB checks, Hero bets $0.19, SB calls $0.19
Turn: ($0.66, 2 players) Q
SB checks, Hero bets $0.44, SB calls $0.44
River: ($1.54, 2 players) 7
SB checks, Hero bets $3.83 and is all-in, SB calls $3.72 and is all-in
Hero shows T T (Three of a Kind, Tens) (Pre 84%, Flop 85%, Turn 91%)
SB shows 5 7 (One Pair, Sevens) (Pre 16%, Flop 15%, Turn 9%)
Hero wins $8.39
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