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 Originally Posted by ImSavy
I didn't c-bet because it's a really shitty flop to c-bet imo. Villains flatting ranges just hit this board so much better than mine. I want to be c-betting my Jx, draws and utter crap imo. I think hands from weak 2pair (i.e 22) or better I should just be checking and trying to get cheap showdown.
It also really isn't a board where weaker hands in villains range are going to try and get out of line over multiple streets with bluffs.
Villains possible Qx and Jx
AQ (6) KQ (12)
18
AJ (4) KJ (8) QJ (6) TJ (8) JJ (1)
27
Also most likely to 3bet AQ & KQ & JJ if he is going to 3bet any of those hands pre which some % of the time will happen.
The turn considerable changes his range.
AQ, KQ is still 18 combos
AJ (2) KJ (4) QJ (3) TJ (4) JJ (0) = 13 combos
So I am much less worried about him value betting Jx and any pairs he did have might be over excited about having a full house now.
You're going to get called on flop by plenty of Qx hands, KT, T9 and AT some of the time too. It's an easy value bet imo, can't be too worried about villain showing up w/ Jx some of the time. Also, if they do have Jx they will sure as hell let you know about it and you can get away from your hand, c/c doesn't give you much information about villain's range.
I agree that you should be trying to get to a cheap showdown w/ weaker 2P hands, but AA does not fall into that range at all.
I also don't think AQ and KQ are 3betting hands for regs at 5NL, especially against EP opens. They fall within villain's ranges in this hand, imo.
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