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2nl Snap KK OTR

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  1. #1

    Default 2nl Snap KK OTR

    OTR putting Villain on a A5 (K5, Q5, J5),55, 98, T9+.Would you check/fold or bet/fold?

    888 Poker - $0.02 NL (6 max) FAST - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    BTN: $2.85
    Hero (SB): $2.00
    BB: $4.94
    UTG: $2.06
    MP: $2.35
    CO: $2.84

    Hero posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has K K

    fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.06, BB calls $0.04

    Flop: ($0.12, 2 players) 7 9 3
    Hero bets $0.11, BB calls $0.11

    Turn: ($0.34, 2 players) 8
    Hero bets $0.27, BB calls $0.27

    River: ($0.88, 2 players) 6
    Hero ???
  2. #2
    This is the range I assume you mean

    {55, A5s, K5s, Q5s, JTs, J5s, T9s, 98s, A5o, K5o, Q5o, JTo, J5o, T9o, 98o}

    I'm confused how you got to that range. Care to explain?

    To answer your question, considering you have 0 equity against that range and villain won't fold any straight and is very unlikely to fold any two pair so we have close to 0 fold equity I'd say this would be a really easy x/f.
  3. #3
    Ok, scrap that range....

    Unknown Villain's calling range PF is Ax Broadways PP SC (hands in grey in pic are part of the PF calling range).

    This is what I think they have left OTR.

    All GS, MP, BP have been folded out.
    Sets would have raised.
    TP, OP, FD, OESD are still there.

    The River card comes 6h

    We have 48% vs this range



    So now do I bet/fold or check/fold?
    Last edited by DJAbacus; 02-23-2015 at 11:06 AM.
  4. #4
    You can't count on sets having raised; perhaps they should have raised but that's not the same thing at all.

    [R] X*/F**
    * What's he calling that doesn't beat you? TPTK perhaps but his $5 says probably not. You just might fold out something that would but it's not likely and this isn't the hand to turn into a bluff.
    ** I don't see him bluffing at you either. It's possibly you'll fold to QQ/JJ occasionally but nowhere near as often as you save that bet.

    In general you should expect too many calls and not enough bluffs.
  5. #5
    The fishier our opponent, the more likely we are beat because more combos that beat us make it to the River.

    As a general rule vs unknowns I'm going to going to be check/calling any bet up to 50%. I do think that some fish like to bluff missed draws but if they do then it's wp by them.

    On the subject of bluffing the Riv, I'm looking to check/call bigger bets when they are no draws out there and they have checked back OTT as I have found I'm bluff catching more often than not in those spots.
  6. #6
    x/f. The only hands I think that gets to the river which you beat are 9x, and it doesn't seem likely those hands are calling another bet.
  7. #7
    Definitely c/f. Spots like this show the power of position. If you're in villains shoes, you can shove pretty happily as not many ppl at this stake are capable of checking Tx and won't have many 5x.
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