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 Originally Posted by Savy
When he donks pot (essentially) on the turn what exactly do you think he is doing this for? When a villain is doing really retarded stuff putting him on a range at every street is hard, for example it wouldn't be that ridiculous* to assume he's not calling Q4o pre-flop but against bad players we can gather a lot more information from active decisions like choosing to bet the turn as apposed to more passive decisions like clicking call.
If the software has it available you need to be making notes on this type of thing. Calling Q4o in the BB is awful & donking pot when he spikes two pair on the turn, of which neither card is the high card.
*Yet clearly wrong as shown by this hand.
When it comes to things like this, 2NL will always be 2NL. It's just much, much harder to extract value when you do hit a hand today. Rec networks very often play out like "bet, bet, bet, shove" and that just doesn't fly here most of the time. These guys are loose preflop and tight aggressive on the turn and river. They love bluffing and attempting to steal pots and once you show any weakness and if you even give off the hint of being afraid of losing money, the whole table starts 3betting you like crazy. As said, you can turn on 10NL on BOL and see just absolutely atrocious play compared to 2NL and 5NL on WPN. Still, you'll definitely still see atrocious play on WPN micros, just far less.
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