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25nl Zoom: flop and turn line ok? Thin value river?

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  1. #1

    Default 25nl Zoom: flop and turn line ok? Thin value river?

    Opener is a 21/7 type over a large sample and passive pre in the sense of he has straightforward bet sizing tells. It’s highly unlikely this guy is anything approaching a winning player. BB is a 17/11 type and passive post-flop over ~60 hands.

    Pre seems standard against the tight open. I’m confident I’m good on the flop against the opener too given his sizing, but is raising for value slash protection too thin? Given BB flats, I think he has pair plus draw and flush-draw type hands, as I’d expect 90%+ of the player pool to raise sets and straights.

    Turn sizing okay? 98 got there but we’re still likely good against the majority of villain’s range that does still have good equity against JJ.

    River a clear value bet? It's kind of a scare card and I doubt villain folds two pair now, but this is one of those spots where I suspect I should be looking for thin value? If so, sizing?


    PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com

    Button ($24.30)
    SB ($50.20)
    BB ($31.08)
    UTG ($48.35)
    MP ($58.46)
    Hero (CO) ($54.49)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with J, J
    1 fold, MP raises to $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, 2 folds, BB calls $0.25

    Flop: ($1.60) 8, 5, 4 (3 players)
    BB checks, MP bets $0.75, Hero calls $0.75, BB calls $0.75

    Turn: ($3.85) 9 (3 players)
    BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $2.45, BB calls $2.45, 1 fold

    River: ($8.75) 10 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero checks
  2. #2
    I'm 3betting pre. Opener is tight but flatting a min-raise allows so many more people in behind us and also encourages a squeeze. We're also 200bb deep so that needs to be taken into consideration.

    I prob play the rest of the hand the same way. That board is all over BB's flatting range and I'm just not confident in value-betting river.
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  3. #3
    Is this PFR standard open size? if smaller sizing means weaker for this type ofplayer then I don't mind 3b. Otherwise, flat is fine.

    I think there's value on river, but probably only for half pot bet.
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  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Cobra_1878 View Post
    We're also 200bb deep so that needs to be taken into consideration.
    Explain to me how raising takes into account that we are 200bb deep?

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