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Originally Posted by ImSavy
Calling an UTG raise with A5s is a bit loose no?
I mean the only hand I think we need to be worried about really is JJ, 22 & 44 aren't always in villains UTG range but we shouldn't discount them fully. It's unlikely villain is opening 78/89s UTG though and stuff like AJ, KJs are in his range. Villain also has some worse flush draws in his range but I wouldn't think many.
Overbet polarises his range quite a lot imo so we can cut out stuff a lot of two pairs using the J, I doubt an overpair wouldn't bet the turn especially with the flush draw available and it would be a silly hand to turn into a bluff (although people do sometimes). I suppose he might check some of his 8x hands if he has them but he wouldn't then overbet the river.
Really I think we're best off just calling. I think his range is polarised and there isn't really anything we get extra value from if we raise unless villain is a tard and it makes sense to play JJ this way.
Yeah pre is probably a mistake, not really sure why I called.
I'm pretty sure I have the best hand here but I agree with you that his range is polarised with overbet on river. JJ does make sense but I think that's the only hand villain can have in his range that beats me.
I don't think he has many, if any, 8x hands in his range. He may have 22/44 in his UTG range but that seems unlikely. I think it's possible he has AJ and is betting big because of "missed value" on the turn. I think the only hands I can get value from, by raising, are badly played overpairs or hands like KcQc, KcJc, QcJc, QcTc and possibly KcTc.
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