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    Default TPMK lead into on turn after monotone flop

    Villain completely unknown.

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    BB ($92)
    UTG ($79.80)
    MP ($50.75)
    Hero (CO) ($50)
    Button ($62.30)
    SB ($49.60)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with A, J
    UTG calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero bets $2.50, 2 folds, BB calls $2, 1 fold

    Flop: ($5.75) A, 4, 7 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $4.50, BB calls $4.50

    Turn: ($14.75) 10 (2 players)
    BB bets $12, hero ?
  2. #2
    Against a complete unknown, I'll call and reevaluate a river planning to call most. I usually have at least a loose/tight read though to go off of.
    Playing live . . . thanks alot Bin Laden.
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    I would definitely not raise, Id say this is 65% toward someone trying to get 3 streets of value where he thinks you might check behind on turn and 35% random bluff from villain. Either case call and see what he does on the river. Reads are really nice though in these spots. Against some villains I'd muck right there; other fish you can raise here because they are just taking random stabs and don't fold. But calling is the play vs. unknown.
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    I think I call turn and fold river because we're essentially bluff-catching and I'm not giving an unknown credit for a multiple street bluff.
  5. #5
    Unfortunately this one of my first hands at the table. I agree having even a slight idea of villain being loose/tight helps making the decision.

    I folded turn already, because;
    - Villains betsizing is weighted towards value
    - Better A's/2 pair/sets are possible
    - I definately have to fold to any spade river aggression, maybe to any river aggression
    - If villain is really bluffing I think he has to bluff the river a large % of time. That might be too much credit for an unknown 50NL villain though, and it's an argument for calling 2 streets with our hand.
    - All my 'outs' are tainted

    On the other hand, worse Ax is a possibility and so are random bluffs.
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    This is almost always like AQ/AJ/AT w/ no spade. It's super transparent, I'd say villain probably has AT super often. I'd call and bluff spade rivers.

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