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why cant i ever be involved in big pots where i am the winner? its either small pots that add up, only to be lost to donk plays, or me losing large pots.
i dont know what i want to do anymore. when i consistently make money at live poker, and consistently lose at online poker, it makes me think there is a flaw in the system.
goodness - this is sad - You raise 2BB's and you want respect for it? 50c raise is a nuisance raise at this level - If you are going to raise (when you don't want Q,4 in there) then raise at LEAST 3.5bb - If that doesn't work, do 5xBB next time - Find the bet level that achieves the results you want.
You WANT players calling you with Q,4 - You want them to call your all in when you've got 4 flush and top pair - Besides that, how can you get any big pots when your playing with $6.65 at a NL25 table? You are playing as a short stacker - short stacks get no respect because it costs us very little - If I don't have much to lose, i'm going to play a lot looser -
I have to say for the other 2 - what do you expect? if you get a large bet called when you've only got 1 pair, that usually means you are in trouble - Take your small pot and move on - The 6's flopping a set - why not check and call there? You are either going to take down the pot (like your re-raise did), or someone is going to draw on you with flush/straight draws and you could then lose a big pot - I would play the 6's the exact way you did - 2 clubs and 3 coordinated low cards isn't good - don't let anyone draw cheap - The best way to flop a set is to have those pocket 6's and have the board be something like K,6,3 - the top pairs will call you all day long on that kinda board - that is when you can make a big pot - Would you rather turn that top set into a big pot by letting someone in with A,3c where they have the flush draw with a gut?
also, live games, In my experience, are much looser than online games - I don't know why - maybe it's people seeing exactly how much $$ is in front of them all the time, the multitablers - too mnay people reading books about starting hands, etc - but you can't generalize it this much - Each game online is different - Tight/Aggressive, Weak/Passive etc. Find the game that fits your style - If you want big pots with your big hands, play in a NL game where you've got 5-8 people seeing a flop evne with a raise - Or play in a tight game where 2 or 3 people are seeing the flop - I hate those games personally - (the NL table selection is great for this) but you have to know which you prefer -
I think you also are thinking of your "good hands" in terms of limit poker it seems - In Limit, AK flopping a King is a good thing - In NL with that, if you get action you could be in big trouble - I will take pocket 5's over AK in a NL game - The 5's don't get me in trouble - the AK will -
as for setting people up - Play it different - People at these levels are CHRONIC slowplayers - Mix up your game - Sometimes bet with a made hand, sometimes mini-bet to feign weakness - Check raise someone a small amount to annoy them - try to mix things up - Just don't get married to your hands -
also, my personal feeling about NL is that I want to make money on my big hands - I tend to bet more than players would expect - Plenty of times I don't get called...but you know what is funny about poker players at low limit NL games? They don't like feeling like someone is pushing them around - Sometimes I underbet, but most of the time I am betting so it looks like i'm trying to steal it - After I do this a few times, they don't like it - They call just because they think you are stealing -
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Top pair, good draw; Why are these people in these hands?
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Don't really know what else to say? Maybe you should play chess?
Originally Posted by johnnyBuz
