Ok, I just want to answer a few points made that maybe I didn't make myself clear about. And thanks for all the comments, this was the discussion I was hoping to have.

Quote Originally Posted by Jager
Quote Originally Posted by jyms
not playing enough poker on the cheaper streets.
Really, I tend to play more 'poker' on the later streets. I feel that the farther I go in a hand the more advantage I have, because there are so many players who bot their way through preflop and the flop.
My problem is that my preflop game is not "botlike" nor standard, this is one of the things that really needs work, hence my "poker on cheaper streets" comment.

Quote Originally Posted by Irisheyes
Start taking responsibility and start learning away from the tables.
Wow harsh but some truth, I do blame myself and my play, I do agree I don't spend enough time on poker away from the tables.

Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
For the vast majority of the player pool a 3-bet means business and your stats should reflect that. Giving up an opener or two to some guy who just discovered that 3-betting is fun isn't going to get you stupid broke.
This is a standout problem for me. Instead of Fuck it, I am trying to find reasons to play against a 6 or 7%+ 3better.

Quote Originally Posted by Jager
I'm guessing your ATS % is ~28%?? If this is correct it and you feel you can outplay your light 3betting opponent who is in the blinds, then it MAY be correct for you to fold ~60% to 3bets. Another thing to remember is that unless they are 3betting you more than 1/3 of your steals, every time you steal it is +EV. Also it is very possible for both you and the 3better to have be +EV in steal spots. Also find better seats!!!
My steal is actually 30% but I agree. My table selection is pretty good, the problem comes from having position on light three betters and trying to play postflop in ballooned pots instead of 4bet/folding.


Most of my issues are not from 3 betting (which I don't do enough) but from calling 3 bets, which I do way too often. My goal is to finish the month with 75% folding to 3 bets, give or take. I want to get my preflop/flop game under control and make it sound enough to focus on the last two streets.There has been a great bunch of info sent my way, thanks for that. I will let you know how it goes.

thanks for the thoughts.