Settle a dumb propbet

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$500/$1000 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG elmariachimacho ($31592.00)
CO Phil Ivey ($197509.00)
BTN durrrr ($90082.00)
SB pr1nnyraid ($118520.50)
BB mastrblastr ($37197.00)

Krantz has :Jd: :Jh:
Pre-flop: ($1500, 5 players)
1 fold, durrrr says "click ha", Phil Ivey raises to $3000, durrrr calls $3000, durrrr says "wtf does that mean?", pr1nnyraid raises to $13000, 1 fold, Phil Ivey folds, durrrr says "crazy live pros make no sense", durrrr calls $10000

Flop: ($30000, 2 players)
pr1nnyraid bets $12000, durrrr calls $12000

Turn: ($54000, 2 players)
pr1nnyraid bets $10000, durrrr calls $10000

River: ($74000, 2 players)
pr1nnyraid goes all-in $83520.50, durrrr ???

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value and its not even remotely close, /thread

congrats on winning your prop bet

lmao thx for ruining it all

There's certainly some relevant history that we are unaware of.

I agree that this line looks like value but I'm pretty sure kranz expects durrrr to sometimes fold KQs here as well. Every move doesn't have to be clearly value or clearly bluff, you should know that.

Originally Posted by pocketfours

I agree that this line looks like value but I'm pretty sure kranz expects durrrr to sometimes fold KQs here as well. Every move doesn't have to be clearly value or clearly bluff, you should know that.

Yah my original instinct when looking at this hand, is that krantz could think durr might fold KQ or a worse K if he gets there with that (or like QQ?).

Though looking at the hand more, it looks to be more for value to me. Though I also think its really really thin. The turn bet sizing is pretty key though, cause i think his super small turn bet at least keeps in a ton of hands that he beats going into the river.

I don't know their history well enough to know how good this is though..... I agree with P4's though that I'm sure krantz also thought it was possible he could be bluffing and getting him to sometimes fold better.

Originally Posted by nutsinho

congrats on winning your prop bet

LOL

Originally Posted by pocketfours

There's certainly some relevant history that we are unaware of.

I agree that this line looks like value but I'm pretty sure kranz expects durrrr to sometimes fold KQs here as well. Every move doesn't have to be clearly value or clearly bluff, you should know that.

yah im just thinking in general terms, this is for value like most of the time i think.

Hard for me to input timing tells and specific session meta into an observed HH, so just talkin generally given what we know of both players.

Originally Posted by mcatdog

Originally Posted by nutsinho

congrats on winning your prop bet

LOL

lol, If people can tell which result OP has his money on, just from the post, its clearly biased! Maybe the ldo influenced it ....

Alexos, just pm krantz on deucescracked and ask him if he thought he was bluffing or value betting, imo.

Mayyyybe they have some other way of telling which side I'm on...?

ship the maniez son

lol@Durrrr folding KQs

griffey, it was value, value, value, ship the monies

having played a lot with durrr, this is non-thin value

Originally Posted by sauce123

having played a lot with durrr, this is non-thin value

took the words right out of my mouth