Set on meh board... any value on this river?

[griffey24]

-villain is unknown but up till the point of this hand was running about 30/20/1.5 over only 100 or so hands mind you
-saw him have 77 earlier and call a T high flop and then the flush card on turn was also his set and he called down 3 barrels from villain without raising the set (scared of flush?)
-There's $722 left on river and pot is $650. What's the best river line?


$2/$5 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($500.00)
CO ($493.00)
BTN ($1860.15)
Hero ($1042.65)
BB ($507.00)

Pre-flop: ($7, 5 players) Hero is SB
1 fold, CO raises to $15, BTN calls $15, Hero calls $13, 1 fold

Flop: ($50, 3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, BTN bets $30, Hero raises to $130, CO folds, BTN calls $100

Turn: ($310, 2 players)
Hero bets $175, BTN calls $175

River: ($660, 2 players)
Hero's action?

[zook]

I like c/f.

[IowaSkinsFan]

I don't understand turn bet sizing at all. I bet like 230-260 on the turn and shove river.

[griffey24]

I don't understand turn bet sizing at all. I bet like 230-260 on the turn and shove river.

hmmm this is like the opposite of zook's suggestion of c/f.

I decided to size my bet smaller on the turn, since I feel as though we get a fold a very high % of the time in this spot given the flush card came. I wanted to keep some more marginal 1 pair hands in.

I can't imagine what worse hands would be calling a shove on this river (assuming villain isn't a commplete donk) aside from maybe KJ sometimes. Wouldn't a small bet/fold be better than a shove? (more worse hands call and we can still sort of get away from a better hand shoving)

[zook]

Not opposite, I also bet turn bigger. Was just on my iphone so I went for brevity.

[griffey24]

Not opposite, I also bet turn bigger. Was just on my iphone so I went for brevity.

Well turn sizing aside. "opposite" in the sense of c/f river is pretty much the opposite of shoving river. Regardless of what I bet on the turn (unless I made a completely committing bet), the decision to shove or c/f should be constant on river.

If anything, betting less on turn should keep more worse hands in, such that shoving would have even better equity vs his range in that scenario.

[gabe]

on my account i always shove river, but only after betting more on turn