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  1. #1

    Default non showdown spots

    i'm trying to work on small-medium pots and ending up in a ton of spots where i'm losing these hands without showdown.

    input is appreciated on which lines you take and whether you'd fold my hand.

    hand 1: villain is super fish 63/9/1.4
    fold turn just because his most likely holdings are 2pr+ and i rarely have more than 20% equity

    $0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
    6 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    UTG rfl81 ($9.35)
    UTG+1 grpego1964 ($118.60)
    CO Romean21 ($102.50)
    BTN Hero ($152.60)
    SB helena777 ($196.70)
    BB samvex ($149.22)

    Pre-flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is BTN
    1 fold, grpego1964 calls $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $4.50, helena777 calls $4, samvex calls $3.50, grpego1964 calls $3.50

    Flop: ($18, 4 players)
    helena777 checks, samvex checks, grpego1964 checks, Hero bets $12.50, helena777 folds, samvex calls $12.50, grpego1964 folds

    Turn: ($43, 2 players)
    samvex bets $43, Hero calls $43

    River: ($129, 2 players)
    samvex bets $89.22

    Final Pot: $218.22
    ---------
    hand 2
    villain folds to 3bet 80%, 22/18/3.0
    against his calling range i check flop here, turn call, river fold. give me an argument for raise turn/shove riv ?

    $0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
    6 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    UTG tntrainee ($30.75)
    UTG+1 matpio ($136.55)
    CO Hero ($104.00)
    BTN Elferun ($41.75)
    SB rfl81 ($144.06)
    BB Mimi_ ($125.30)

    Pre-flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is CO
    1 fold, matpio raises to $3.50, Hero raises to $11, 3 folds, matpio calls $7.50

    Flop: ($23.50, 2 players)
    matpio checks, Hero checks

    Turn: ($23.50, 2 players)
    matpio bets $15, Hero calls $15

    River: ($53.50, 2 players)
    matpio bets $35

    Final Pot: $88.50

    ---------
    hand 3
    villain is 31/4/2.0
    i plan to barrel a lot of turns including high cards and spades. if he has hands like 55/67/77 etc i dont want to bet this turn because fish generally fold to A turns being scared. river i'm trying to get value from these hands because now he thinks I don't have an ace. such a weird line from him though but this is a fold 100%

    $0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
    6 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    UTG rfl81 ($335.77)
    UTG+1 FATMEL.K ($113.05)
    CO torciec ($199.50)
    BTN SoSick_84 ($95.00)
    SB Hero ($119.25)
    BB faridou ($100.65)

    Pre-flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is SB
    1 fold, FATMEL.K calls $1, 2 folds, Hero raises to $6, 1 fold, FATMEL.K calls $5

    Flop: ($13, 2 players)
    Hero bets $9, FATMEL.K calls $9

    Turn: ($31, 2 players)
    Hero checks, FATMEL.K checks

    River: ($31, 2 players)
    Hero bets $10, FATMEL.K raises to $98.05

    Final Pot: $139.05

    ---------
    hand 4
    villain 23/14/2.3 and has fold to cbet 39%
    i think bet flop, c/c turn is okay and re-eval riv

    $0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
    6 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    UTG Stephan60 ($145.60)
    UTG+1 grandedollar ($102.45)
    CO Hero ($106.00)
    BTN helena777 ($116.20)
    SB rfl81 ($118.50)
    BB elderskelder ($115.60)

    Pre-flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is CO
    1 fold, grandedollar calls $1, Hero raises to $4.50, helena777 calls $4.50, 2 folds, grandedollar folds

    Flop: ($11.50, 2 players)
    Hero bets $7, helena777 calls $7

    Turn: ($25.50, 2 players)
    Hero checks, helena777 bets $13

    Final Pot: $38.50

    ------------
    hand 5
    villain is 53/13/2.7
    fold to cbet 25%
    i plan on value betting str8/Q/K rivers

    $0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
    6 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    UTG Hero ($207.80)
    UTG+1 rfl81 ($119.25)
    CO giolucca ($312.28)
    BTN helena777 ($128.55)
    SB MR_COOLBLUFF ($89.50)
    BB Porky2804 ($100.00)

    Pre-flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is UTG
    Hero raises to $3.50, 1 fold, giolucca calls $3.50, 3 folds

    Flop: ($8.50, 2 players)
    Hero bets $6, giolucca calls $6

    Turn: ($20.50, 2 players)
    Hero bets $12.50, giolucca calls $12.50

    River: ($45.50, 2 players)
    Hero checks, giolucca bets $11

    Final Pot: $56.50

    ---------
    hand 6
    villain: 20/18/4.6
    has turn cbet 29%, river AF 16%
    this a clear turn fold?

    $0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
    6 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    UTG faridou ($101.50)
    UTG+1 rfl81 ($327.72)
    CO FATMEL.K ($122.55)
    BTN torciec ($195.95)
    SB MR_COOLBLUFF ($346.44)
    BB Hero ($103.00)

    Pre-flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is BB
    1 fold, rfl81 raises to $3.50, 3 folds, Hero calls $2.50

    Flop: ($7.50, 2 players)
    Hero checks, rfl81 bets $5, Hero calls $5

    Turn: ($17.50, 2 players)
    Hero checks, rfl81 bets $11, Hero calls $11

    River: ($39.50, 2 players)
    Hero checks, rfl81 bets $28

    Final Pot: $67.50

    -----------
    hand 7
    villain is 25/8
    perhaps this is a standard check behind fold, I think he could easily minCR air here so i call but i have to fold to turn bet.

    $0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
    5 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    UTG blondins38 ($50.00)
    CO Hero ($186.85)
    BTN Helguson ($55.40)
    SB samvex ($191.77)
    BB rfl81 ($96.50)
    [blondins38 posted $1]

    Pre-flop: ($2.50, 5 players) Hero is CO
    blondins38 checks, Hero raises to $4.50, 3 folds, blondins38 calls $3.50

    Flop: ($10.50, 2 players)
    blondins38 checks, Hero bets $6.50, blondins38 raises to $13, Hero calls $6.50

    Turn: ($36.50, 2 players)
    blondins38 bets $20

    Final Pot: $56.50
    ---------------
    hand 8 (final hand)
    villain: 43/14/1.8
    i have no reason to believe he wont shove river. ofc he's only repping AK/AQ/set imo

    $0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
    6 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    UTG easyeasy69 ($100.00)
    UTG+1 huoletonsuor ($90.30)
    CO Hero ($99.50)
    BTN genot1 ($81.05)
    SB rfl81 ($99.00)
    BB babtwo95 ($40.75)

    Pre-flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is CO
    1 fold, huoletonsuor calls $1, Hero raises to $4.50, 3 folds, huoletonsuor calls $3.50

    Flop: ($10.50, 2 players)
    huoletonsuor bets $10.50, Hero calls $10.50

    Turn: ($31.50, 2 players)
    huoletonsuor bets $31.50

    Final Pot: $63
  2. #2
    Too many hands in one thread!

    hand 1
    -played it fine, turn is close and could even be a fold (not that I could do it) given that any Q/7 river might not be good

    hand 2
    -flat pre and call down
    -as played, bet flop

    hand 3
    -bet turnnnn, fold riv

    hand 4
    -this is fine, I'd probably c/c and check/soul read river
    -b/f this turn is also reasonable sometimes, if you think he calls wide on flop

    hand 5
    -you have to have a plan here in these hands. The turn is a bad card to barrel in general as it didn't ch ange
    the texture of the board and he's likely gonna call.
    -Not only is he likely to call the turn wide but now you bet super small so he's even MORE likely to call the turn
    light. Given this, this is a pretty bad spot to ONLY fire two barrels (esp considering your last barrel was so weak)
    -just check turn/re-eval or go at this hand hard imo, 6 14 45. Probably check turn given his fishiness though

    Hand 6
    -meh, probably fold river. could even fold turn since its a bad card for him to barrel and it seems like he's milking you

    hand 7
    -33 is a pretty bad hand to float with. You're gonna get counterfeited a lot and you have no outs to
    improve even if he's doing this with like 4x or some nonsense
    -fold turn obv

    hand 8
    -given turn sizing I drop this
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    q7s, I bet a lot more on the flop then pot control turn here. As played fold turn.

    A6s, b/f flop

    A9, b/f, b/f, c/f
    I think we still get value from draws on the turn. So he folds like 77-99, I think there's more draws in his range than mpps.

    A8 I c/f turn.

    KQs If his fold to cbet is only 25% over a decent sample I'd rather cbet much smaller.

    99, I call river against most villains, but if those agg%s are over a good sample then yeah I think it's a turn fold.

    33, if he can c/minraise air then he can barrel, too. Fold flop.

    99, raise flop, fold turn. I don't like to put a 43/14/1.8 on bluffing scare cards.
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  4. #4
    hand2: i cbet and if called barrel this turn and possibly barrel the river if i'm just called. I drop flop to CR. if i get CR on turn it'll be diffficult but I probably have to stack off.

    hand3: i went FPS in my head, should be a clear bet on turn

    hand4: i think barrel turn is best, for value.

    hand5: either c/f turn or triple barrel here since he calls flop/turn very light

    hand7: should have checked this on flop

    hand8: i can raise this small on flop but I'd have to fold to a 3bet.
  5. #5
    i have to work on my iso range against fishies.

    i think it's definitely a leak to iso cards just because they are suited. i think I'm doing it too much with Jx and Qx suited and should minimize that.
    I think Ax and Kx suited are still strong enough, and easier to play post flop.

    Against calling stations hands like suited connectors seem to lose value because they depend largely on fold equity against the villain.

    So being against these sorts of fish I should use a range of:

    22+
    Ax+
    9Ts+
    broadways

    would you add any more?

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