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  1. #1

    Default my line sucks

    suggestions

    Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    CO ($159.60)
    Hero ($272.55)
    SB ($238.50)
    BB ($598.23)
    UTG ($141.70)
    MP ($189.40)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with J, J. SB posts a blind of $1.
    UTG raises to $7, 1 fold, CO raises to $12, Hero calls $12, 2 folds, UTG calls $5.

    Flop: ($39) 5, 6, 4 (3 players)
    UTG checks, CO bets $37.05, Hero calls $37.05, UTG calls $37.05.

    Turn: ($150.15) 4 (3 players)
    UTG checks, CO bets $20, Hero calls $20, UTG raises to $90.98, CO folds, Hero calls $70.98.

    River: ($352.11) T (2 players)
    Hero calls $1.67.

    Final Pot: $353.78
    BR: $.1k
    Goal 2: July 1 $10k

    IIbeatsUU: lol u raised with that?

    you mini raised, therefore you desereve whatever you get....

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    Fold the flop. As played fold to the raise on the turn, you are ahead almost never.
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    so you are basicly playing for sets only? i should mention neither of these players are good. the minreraise on the flop scared me a little but his flop bet screamed please fold. then his turn bet felt like he was weak and then i flat called. when UTG pushes i felt like i had such good odds and we both had shown weakness i thought he could have been doing it on a pretty wide range.
    BR: $.1k
    Goal 2: July 1 $10k

    IIbeatsUU: lol u raised with that?

    you mini raised, therefore you desereve whatever you get....

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    tough spot
    3 betting preflop does nothing but get messy, saying that mucking here isnt so bad imo. If our opp is bad enough to miniraise i think hes bad enough to pay JJJ so i guess calling is appropriate.
    What do you think of the miniraise? If it suggests AK then id reraise the flop folding to anything else. I think calling here is a terrible option. We put money in on no information either well ahead or well behind. I odnt like how you played this but i take your point on how UTG played it. UTG may very well turn over soething like 88-TT perhaps even QQ here.
    I think the turn is UTG bluffing as his bet makes no sense unless he smells weakness
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    Damn this is a sucky spot for you. You have no clue where you stand.. and it's unlikely you're ahead but it's hard to fold anywhere along the line too..
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    I probably fold the flop. At least fold the turn to a raise. I would be more inclined to call the flop if it was HU.
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    villian had 33
    BR: $.1k
    Goal 2: July 1 $10k

    IIbeatsUU: lol u raised with that?

    you mini raised, therefore you desereve whatever you get....

  8. #8
    Fold preflop, fold flop fold turn.

    EDIT... ok you have implied odds to play for a set here... barely.

    OR (if CO is re-raising a wider range than JJ+)

    re-raise pre-flop, hand plays itself.
  9. #9
    Preflop - Looks alright to me if you know you're only playing for a set.
    Flop - No J, you're looking to fold here unless you have a great read on your opponents betting patterns.
    Turn - Fold

    You're up against a set + an overpair most the time here.

    GL

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    I consider folding this preflop sometimes. You don't have anything invested at this point, and you aren't even up against full-buys.

    I don't think you can call that flop bet against most players.
  11. #11
    Renton you bring up a valid point, but I think that they have just enough to make it worthwhile to play for a set, expecting to get their whole stack if you do hit that set.

    1/8 times you hit a set right?.

    12 x 8 = $96 total

    The one time you hit your set, expect to get paid their stack, so in the end they are making a profit.

    But if you dont think you can get their stack, a fold is not a bad option at all..

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