I am a tard in 3 bet pots.

So I hate these spots. Find them very fucking awkward indeed.

Villain is 19/16, been isoing pretty damn wide, he folds 69% to 3 bets and 4 bets 20%. I don't have any real reads as to his tendencies post flop in 3-bet pots. I've been fairly active though with 3 betting etc. I meant to make this slightly bigger pre like 12, but was a sizing tard due to 8 tabling madness.

Thoughts on my line here postflop? Think the c-bet is pretty std. Balances all the bazillion air I c-bet this flop with and I can defo get peeled by PPs, 7x 88-JJ or floats sometimes. Other option is c/c flop but this is pretty damn face up here most of the time idk. Plan for a turn?

$0.50/$1 No Limit Holdem
5 Players
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Stacks:
UTG ssdd ($135)
CO w84no1jude ($377.10)
BTN RiverRock55 ($100)
SB Carroters ($100)
BB sergey321 ($104.50)

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 5 players) Carroters is SB
ssdd calls $1, 1 fold, RiverRock55 raises to $3.50, Carroters raises to $10.50, 1 fold, ssdd folds, RiverRock55 calls $7

Flop: ($23, 2 players)
Carroters bets $11, RiverRock55 calls $11

Turn: Hero? pot = 45. Hero has 78.50 behind.

Flop is standard, turn i'd probably b/call 28-31$ depending on dynamics.

My default is to c/c here and see a river. I am not too worried about giving a free card because a lot of his draws are raising/getting it in on the flop. It's also hard for him to call a bet on the turn with worse unless he thinks you are getting out of line and calls down with 88-JJ.

These spots are annoying, and it's probably better to just avoid them by not having hands like this in your 3bet bluffing range.

Seems like a decent 22-25/call

Bet/call plz

i expect to get a decent amount of folds on this turn on Kxx in 3B pots, since people 4B AK, and rarely have KQ/KJ comapred to mid PPs and random SC/overs (AQ type) floats
I`m not sure if its a good thing for us if we bet the turn with our specific hand (not a huge fan of 3Bing pre with this hand tbh, because its obv a bluff, not for value vs him. Now you get into this spot)
I dont mind ch-call, ch-fold maybe?
Interested to hear more oppinions on this one

Originally Posted by lancelott_

i expect to get a decent amount of folds on this turn on Kxx in 3B pots, since people 4B AK, and rarely have KQ/KJ comapred to mid PPs and random SC/overs (AQ type) floats
I`m not sure if its a good thing for us if we bet the turn with our specific hand (not a huge fan of 3Bing pre with this hand tbh, because its obv a bluff, not for value vs him. Now you get into this spot)
I dont mind ch-call, ch-fold maybe?
Interested to hear more oppinions on this one

Here villain gets to the flop with such a wide range that we can't really do anything but keep betting our top pair and go with it.

Given that you have been iso'ing him quite a bit and that he is either folding or 4-betting about 90% of the time he is either adjusting by calling you a bit wider or is continuing with the other 10% of his range in that spot which is probably suited connectors and pp's. If you feel he is/might adjust then I would not 3b KTo type of hands coz he is gonna call u with KQ-KJs type of hands that setup super bad spots. His PFR on the button and fold to 3b on the button will also give u a better idea of the range he continues with.

If he is adjusting by calling ur 3b's wider or getting stubborn with 88-TT in this spot he would probably react the same to a bet bet check line I feel. And he would also probably jam the flop with a decent draw most of the time.

I like bet/call (22-25) coz u get value from worse and his jamming range on the turn is pretty polarized. I would probably x/c a small percentage of the time to try to get him to turn his pp's into a bluff thinking we have TT-QQ.

Whats the plan on a 2h river if he calls the turn bet. Obv x/f or should we look polarized while betting a merged range to get value from his pp's.

as played bet/call, but ideally don't 3bet an iso with this OOP, IP would be better, and polarized would be better too.

Well bet at least, very large chance he doesn't shove.

why not bet 14? you really want to keep in weak 1p hands that are close to dead. now you will still be crushing his range on the river vs betting 24 and thinking??? on meh rivers when turn is called.

even though board is somewhat wet, due to the action he is unlikely to often have hands vs which large sizing is best. The spot is effectively WA/WB giving you a lot of options for sizing