How do I play this turn?

Don't know much about the button, but from the orbits I have seen he seems LAGGY. Haven't tangled with him previously.

** Game ID 812911860 starting - 2007-08-19 21:16:31
** Adler [Hold 'em] (0.50|1.00 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money

- wandreas sitting in seat 2 with $103.00
- Hero sitting in seat 3 with $99.00
- Infiltrate sitting in seat 4 with $91.75
- bully199 sitting in seat 5 with $53.14
- mrpipespb sitting in seat 6 with $107.71 [Dealer]

wandreas posted the small blind - $0.50
Hero posted the big blind - $1.00
** Dealing card to Hero: Jack of Hearts, Jack of Clubs
Infiltrate folded
bully199 called - $1.00
mrpipespb raised - $4.00
wandreas folded
Hero raised - $13.00
bully199 folded
mrpipespb called - $13.00

** Dealing the flop: 6 of Diamonds, 2 of Hearts, 7 of Diamonds
Hero bet - $20.00
mrpipespb called - $20.00

** Dealing the turn: Queen of Spades
Hero ??????

bet/
call
this post made on iPhone so sick

Unless the player has QQ or AQ with the flush draw, the turn doesn't change much. Also if he had A/x with the flush draw. he would've mae his move on the flop IMO. i would go ahead and bet the turn here as well. The queen isn't as big of a scare card as it may appear.

I don't get the bet/call.
I would say bet/fold because of TT, 99 and the draws, but I don't see them raising turn.

I also would think 67, QJ and QT are in villains range, at least sometimes.

unless this guy is a total retard why would he call a 3 bet from a blind with 67, Q10 or QJ? I would think it would be more likely he'd have a set there, maybe with 6's or 7's

Originally Posted by sauce123

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haha. nh. POTD!

Originally Posted by minSim

I don't get the bet/call.

I don't either. I'm not sure why a raise would make us feel like we have the best hand.

well the villans range here is mostly flush draws and PPs 1010 and under. hes laggy too so unless he somehow did this with qq, aq, or slowplayed a set most of his range will be a draw or retarded stuff with like 88, 99. so if he pushes you should be ahead and there will be lots of money in the pot already.

Originally Posted by EzDuzIt

hes laggy too

i don't think we should put a ton of faith into that based on what hero said about him. if he were to push then that would be the classic monster line of call flop/raise turn. also, why would he wait til the turn to raise/push a draw?

because people do stupid shit.

basically any hand villan played like this then pushed over with he probably played badly.

Originally Posted by will641

unless this guy is a total retard why would he call a 3 bet from a blind with 67, Q10 or QJ? I would think it would be more likely he'd have a set there, maybe with 6's or 7's

Because he "seems laggy", the 3-bet isn't that big, he has position, he raised a limper from CO and got 3-bet so could be a sqeeuze by hero.

Check/call the turn. Value bet any non A/K/Diamond river. Control the pot. Your hand has showdown value, don't turn it into a bluff.

c/r all in

Well i bet out about 2/3-pot, he pushed over me and I had to call because of the size of the pot/I could be ahead. He had non-diamond AQ. GG.

Originally Posted by EzDuzIt

because people do stupid shit.

lol yes but we can't make a certain play bc someone sometime did something stupid in a similar spot.

EDIT: that was a lot of "s" words

Originally Posted by larsmars

c/r all in

joke?

Originally Posted by Andypandy

Well i bet out about 2/3-pot, he pushed over me and I had to call because of the size of the pot/I could be ahead. He had non-diamond AQ. GG.

*&#^@&@ Jacks!

martin; t's a stack-a-donk, not a joke. Or a "get-stacked-by-donk" in this case.

Originally Posted by larsmars

martin; t's a stack-a-donk, not a joke. Or a "get-stacked-by-donk" in this case.

ya i'm aware of the line. i'm not a big fan of it usually but it just seemed especially bad to me here.

Originally Posted by will641

unless this guy is a total retard why would he call a 3 bet from a blind with 67, Q10 or QJ? I would think it would be more likely he'd have a set there, maybe with 6's or 7's

You'd be surprised at what people call 3-bets with... And at 100NL you'll usually see a set, a draw, or other strong hands raise the flop. I think we can take QJ,QT,KQ, even AQ (well he had it, which is surprising) out of his range on the turn because he called the cont bet. Against a pretty aggro player i like a c/r all in actually since he's likely betting if he's floating or if he has a draw. I doubt he's calling a 2nd barrel with a 6 or a 7.

Sauce i like a bet/call with your image in a more aggro game but i think a check is better at 100NL from a guy with a non-insane image.

Originally Posted by sauce123

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cheh

My thoughts exactly. Villain probably isn't retarded, but it's usually safe to assume that most unknown villains are bad poker players. I know how Andy plays and it's more like "TAgg with an attitude". If he bets again he will fold out a lot of the hands he's beating. If villain is laggy, well, then he's going to bet if checked to because that's what laggy players do.