Quote Originally Posted by snowbird4life
Maybe im missing something here, but you are holding Top Two Pair! Pleasssse whatever you do DO NOT fold here, seriously, you are holding top two on a dry board. Not only that, but about half your stack is in the pot already, you are committed holding top two on a dry board in 4 max 100nl.
You are thinking 0 level here; "What do I have?" I agree with your comment that she cant fold if she puts in a 4bet, that should be obvious; however, just because she has TOP TWO doesnt mean she needs to call.

Also, this isnt that dry of a board and if it actually were a dry board, that would be even more reason to fold.

Quote Originally Posted by snowbird4life
*Anyone else who sees this, Does anyone with a 100k+ hand database want to look through and see how often they have a flopped top two beaten by a flopped set in 6 max? It is just sooo rare, rarer than kk beaten by aa preflop i think. I see a lot of similar posts about people holding top two pair on a dry board, and you just can't fold that imo especially at 100nl with 100bb stacks, its almost like folding kk preflop because you suspect aa, you just can't do it. Maybe i should make a separate post discussing this. *
You are right, top two isnt beaten by a set on the flop very often. But is that the question we should be asking? No. We should be asking how often when we get AI on the flop in a limped pot after 4betting and calling a 5bet AI are we good. The answer is going to be a pretty low number, even at 100nl which really isnt that low of stakes.


In this hand I agree with hypermagachi, you need to play this hand slower. Putting a 4bet in just limits their range to hands that are most likely ahead of us. Call and get AI on most turns, that will give your opponent a better chance to make a mistake.