Quote Originally Posted by dsaxton
Quote Originally Posted by aislephive
dsaxton, I think you are being very results oriented this hand. You can always stick in a reraise and give him credit for a higher flush if he pushes, but a lot of the time you are ahead here and won't make much on the hand by check-calling and you give him a free shot to hit a boat or a cheap exit if another heart hits. The fact that you both are big stacks changes the dynamics a bit, but I think that with 100xbb stacks here I go broke.
Um, I gave an explicit argument as to why I thought calling was the right play which made absolutely no reference to the result of the hand. I posted the results, and how they were interesting in light of my thinking, only as an anecdote and because someone had requested them.

If I reraise, and then he just calls, how do I know he has a set and isn't slow-playing a big flush? Do I then throw out a huge turn bet when I'm unsure as to whether or not I'm slightly ahead or drawing dead? If he does indeed have a set, he will charge himself to draw on the turn anyways if I call the flop. I don't have to worry about losing value in this sense. I already said this in another post.

I thought it was an interesting example of how aggressive betting and raising is not always the correct course of action, and that sometimes passive play can be optimal.
How often, on average, do you expect to make long term by just calling this flop instead of reraising? Let's say you just call here and another heart comes. If he has a set, two pair, or a straight, he slows down considerably and checks behind on the turn. And it will be very hard for you now to confidently play your ten high flush when any broadway heart beats you. Now if you reraise the flop it's very likely that a flopped flush would move in here, unless it was the nut flush and which case they might just call and trap, but it's unlikely a K or Q high flush flat calls there when another heart kills their hand or their action, and with you showing so much strength and a somewhat vulnerable hand it would make little sense to slowplay. How would a set play against your reraise? If he's stupid then he'll push all in, figuring his set is good. Most likely he just calls and folds to a turn bet if he doesn't improve. Two pair probably folds to your reraise, so does a straight.

I think it's safe to say that if he pushes over your reraise on the flop that he has a higher flush and you can muck. But long term hands you aren't making much money from hands you have beat by playing it so passively.