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 Originally Posted by Chopper
Originally Posted by andy-akb
Originally Posted by Harry
c-bet here. He is not "leading out" if you check to him.
Are we value betting or bluffing? Do we really need to protect against a flush in a 4bet pot?
so, you are saying villain has a K?
i guess my original question is: Is it a better than 50/50 shot he has the K and i am way behind? if he has the K, i am an 85/15 dog here. if he has the draw, i am only 50-60% to win the hand.
if i got this correct, that makes me about 25-33% to win the hand if i cant get the correct read. because if i am right, and he has the K, i win 1-2 times out of 10. if i am wrong, and he has the draw, i win 5-6 times out of 10. given the 2 biggest possibilities that he could hold, i would win 6-8 times out of 20...therefore, he wins more than half the time, and the correct move is to fold...yes?
does that make sense?
Im not entirely sure I follow what you are saying. Are you saying that he either has a draw or a king?
I was just trying to say that I dont really see the point in betting the flop. If he has a K, he isnt folding. Chances of him having a draw are very slim so we shouldnt need to bet to protect against it. If he has an ace he is drawing to 3 outs, so again, there isnt really a need to protect against it. C/C is fine on this flop, on the turn it is more read dependent but I am c/cing most turns and giving up on most rivers unimproved.
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