yeah dsax, jeff makes some good points. If you don't agree with the preflop call in the ATs (e.g. you think it is -ev), then I understand that. FWIW, in hindsight, I think it was probably slightly -EV with the info I had at the time and probably slightly +EV after I had played with him for a bit. However, I don't think we should be passing up the edge if we think we have one. If your reasoning is just to reduce variance (which is in essence what I think you're arguing), then I do not agree with it. Difference of opinion I guess. Also, sorry if I came off as an asshole in any of my posts. It's just the example you gave is actually a pretty bad example in my very humble opinion.