Quote Originally Posted by Genitruc
as for hand 1 (6h7h 2nd pair on flop) I think the other card in our hand is more important in terms of improving to a backdoor str8 or flushdraw on the turn than simply in terms of kicker value
So much interesting stuff in this thread.

I never thought about that. In my experience backdoored flush draws are approximately 1,5 outs, but that is of course for 2 streets and 2 streets alone.
But it's indeed interesting to see how having turned a flush- or straightdraw can change our play. Have you done any additional thinking on this?
I.e.: what changes for you having A7 with no backdoor FD, or 72s with a backdoor FD?