Quote Originally Posted by DJJunkPauds
I don't think 2:1 is enough. I think we're between 6:1 and 5:1 against legitimate hands, so he needs to be bluffing a hell of a lot for this to break even, imho.
Villain has the stats to be capable of bluffing a lot, or over-valuing hands that aren't that good like KQ. He's also probably capable of semi-bluffing a pair that turned into a pair plus a flush draw, or a straight/flush combo draw, or a three-way draw (e.g. 7s 8s). But also, he's capable of doing this with hands like two pair, which we still have some equity against, since we have 8 outs against those hands. Basically I think this is a lot closer than it looks given how the guy probably plays. A better opponent, this becomes a snap-fold.