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So I should fold the flop in both if I'm not happy to stack off, still defo don't think I should be felting either of these spots.
I flatted floip in 1. thinking at the time that villain's range was probably QQ+ AK with perhaps the odd random hand, but very rarely. If he c-bets here I don't expect him to shove the turn too often but then with his equity it's defo possible, also even vs AK I don't have super awesome equity on this board. So can get behind folding flop one hand 1, but then am I happy to peel small c-bets on on boards where AK has less equity and is less likely to jam turns on me? If not I should just fold preflop barring some read villain wont c-bet worse.
In H2 I agree flop call is probably bad. He just isn't c-betting 3 ways here vs a cold caller with worse enough. Think his range on the turn is pretty damn strong so defo need to be not stacking off imo. This guy's more aggro than V in hand 1, lots of turns turns suck if I do call and yeah think flop is a fold upon reflection.
So lesson here is: don't make marginal flop calls that are either barely +EV or not at all in a vacuum in spots where we don't even get to showdown super often when we have the best hand and aren't happy to call a 2nd street?
If I'm off on this and you meant something else nuts, please let me know!
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