K, I play way lower than you guys so completely ignore me if you wish but I was thinking about this in the shower just now and think of it very differently.

21/18/5.1 is a lot different than a friday night drunken donk. This guy didn't say do you know what? griffey24 hit that river on me last hand when I was donking so Im going to repay him by shipping TT here against his range that either folds so I win 25$ or has me drawing to a couple outs.

From his perspective he is probably semi tilted and sees you as knowing that. He wants his money back and he ships the flop with AsXx, made flushes, 88, 66, 33, a range that you cannot profitably call against obviously. The fact that your considering a call here makes it seem like it isn't too bad a play by him.

I think you are all agreeing he doesn't have complete garbage with this play and why would he do this with something like TT that could have a couple streets of value but dominated when the flop gets shipped a lot of the time?

Also if you are calling with Kk why aren't you calling with 99? he is never doing this with 99-QQ IMO, is it so close that you call kk but not 99 because his AsJx has an extra over? If its that close then Id say its a fold...