most people wouldn't get it in here with 86/89 because they fear being dominated

similarly, most people won't really get it in here with a q high flush draw as much as an ace high flush draw

so you're looking at flipping vs. 8c6c/8c9c/6c4c/AcTc or getting it in bad against a set
you're like 55% equity at best vs. Acxc