did you both fail to notice my comment about the player. he doesnt make plays, he's tight, plays few hands, NEVER raised without having a hand, period.

if i had the hand again I might call and hope for the boat on the turn. if the turn is a club i check/fold, if it's not and he pushes i'll call, if he checks i'll try and check it down and hope for a river boat.

this isn't a terrible laydown. too many players call off their stack when they have a monster beaten by another monster!