don't get cute here - 2 hearts and lots of straight draws...My personal rule of thumb is there isn't much reason to slowplay idiots...When you've got this many players with you, you wanna bet the flop harder - Don't give 2 hearts or a lone 8 a chance to gut you...the weak preflop call i don't like either - I dont' like to let in overcards with crappy kick's in for cheap - are you willing to dump the hand if you get tons of action on the turn card? When you limp along, players are going to assume that their weak hands (i see players at 25NL that bet A,10 here the same way) are good, and when the board is coordinated and you have 4 total players in, it's hard to know if your good or not - Fire that flop and knock some people out....