Quote Originally Posted by DickieBets
Thanks for all your input.

I just wanted to add that in hand 1 - I agree it's a weak hand - that I typically wouldnt play either. I figured since 4 players are in and it's only .15 to call I'm getting better than 6 to 1 to call and maybe get a nice flop.

Is that a bad way to think about it ? Maybe it's a small leak ?

Martin
I think the best hope we have for a moneymaking flop is a Q3x flop, and that gives us usually top and bottom pair. I don't like playing for stacks with that hand. The middle card pairs, they hit a kicker, you get the idea.

On a 33x flop we're not making any money, and on a QQx flop if we play a big pot, we lose.

So yeah, it's a bad way to think about it. If you play it poorly after you limp it, it becomes a substantial leak rather than a small one.