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Just need some analysis of my NL Ring play. I'm a tourney player but must hit the cash games to clear my bonuses so I'd like to up my skill level while doing so. Please help.

Sorry about the HHs, Bison just doesn't seem to work with APs lame HHs at all.

1st Hand (online poker is rigged)
No Reads
Stage #161786647: Holdem No Limit $0.10 [ 2005-07-28 22:08:21 ]
Seat 1 - ACEOFSPADES $12.50 in chips
Seat 2 - KANBOH $24.60 in chips
Seat 3 - GOTURGOAT $49.40 in chips
Seat 4 - COLEKC $19.55 in chips
Seat 6 - WALLYJR $15.60 in chips
Seat 7 - ALBIRDY2004 $14.90 in chips
Seat 8 - 10N2OFFSUIT $14 in chips
Seat 9 - THEEGGMAN $25 in chips
*** BLIND [dealer 1] ***
KANBOH - Post small blind $0.10
GOTURGOAT - Post big blind $0.25
THEEGGMAN - Post $0.25
THEEGGMAN - Pocket [Ah,As]
COLEKC - Folds
WALLYJR - Calls $0.25
ALBIRDY2004 - Folds
10N2OFFSUIT - Folds
THEEGGMAN - Raises $0 to $1.25
ACEOFSPADES - Calls $1.25
KANBOH - Calls $1.15
GOTURGOAT - Folds
WALLYJR - Calls $1
*** FLOP [9c,4c,10d] ***
KANBOH - Checks
WALLYJR - Checks
THEEGGMAN - Bets $4
ACEOFSPADES - Calls $4
KANBOH - Calls $4
WALLYJR - Folds
*** TURN [9c,4c,10d,3c] ***
KANBOH - Checks
THEEGGMAN - Bets $6
ACEOFSPADES - All-In(Raise) $6 to $7.25
KANBOH - Folds
THEEGGMAN - Calls $1.25
*** RIVER [9c,4c,10d,3c,10s] ***
ACEOFSPADES - Show cards [Qc,10c]
THEEGGMAN - Show cards [Ah,As]

#2
Should I muck this PF UTG?
Stage #161797420: Holdem No Limit $0.10 [ 2005-07-28 22:25:37 ]
Seat 1 - ACEOFSPADES $26.60 in chips
Seat 2 - KANBOH $32.45 in chips
Seat 3 - GOTURGOAT $48.70 in chips
Seat 4 - COLEKC $22.25 in chips
Seat 5 - CHUNKELUVR53 $7.90 in chips
Seat 6 - BLEWIS420 $10 in chips
Seat 7 - ALBIRDY2004 $14.90 in chips
Seat 8 - 10N2OFFSUIT $13.25 in chips
Seat 9 - THEEGGMAN $20.25 in chips
*** BLIND [dealer 4] ***
CHUNKELUVR53 - Post small blind $0.10
10N2OFFSUIT - Post big blind $0.25
THEEGGMAN - Pocket [Ad,Qc]
THEEGGMAN - Raises $0.25 to $1.25
ACEOFSPADES - Calls $1.25
KANBOH - Folds
GOTURGOAT - Folds
COLEKC - Folds
CHUNKELUVR53 - Folds
10N2OFFSUIT - Folds
*** FLOP [10h,8c,4s] ***
THEEGGMAN - Checks
ACEOFSPADES - Checks
*** TURN [10h,8c,4s,9c] ***
THEEGGMAN - Bets $0.75
ACEOFSPADES - Folds
THEEGGMAN - returned ($0.75) : not called
*** SHOW DOWN ***
THEEGGMAN - Does not show

#3
Do you play this as if HU?
Stage #161799364: Holdem No Limit $0.10 [ 2005-07-28 22:28:47 ]
Seat 1 - ACEOFSPADES $23.60 in chips
Seat 2 - KANBOH $30.70 in chips
Seat 3 - GOTURGOAT $48.70 in chips
Seat 4 - COLEKC $22.25 in chips
Seat 5 - CHUNKELUVR53 $7.80 in chips
Seat 8 - 10N2OFFSUIT $11.25 in chips
Seat 9 - THEEGGMAN $26.65 in chips
*** BLIND [dealer 8] ***
THEEGGMAN - Post small blind $0.10
ACEOFSPADES - Post big blind $0.25
THEEGGMAN - Pocket [Ad,2c]
KANBOH - Folds
GOTURGOAT - Folds
COLEKC - Folds
CHUNKELUVR53 - Folds
10N2OFFSUIT - Folds
THEEGGMAN - Raises $0.15 to $0.75
ACEOFSPADES - Calls $0.50
*** FLOP [9h,2h,4d] ***
THEEGGMAN - Bets $0.75
ACEOFSPADES - Calls $0.75
*** TURN [9h,2h,4d,Ks] ***
THEEGGMAN - Checks
ACEOFSPADES - Checks
*** RIVER [9h,2h,4d,Ks,4c] ***
THEEGGMAN - Bets $0.75
ACEOFSPADES - Folds
THEEGGMAN - returned ($0.75) : not called
*** SHOW DOWN ***
THEEGGMAN - Does not show

#4
???
Stage #161800011: Holdem No Limit $0.10 [ 2005-07-28 22:29:46 ]
Seat 1 - ACEOFSPADES $22.10 in chips
Seat 2 - KANBOH $30.70 in chips
Seat 3 - GOTURGOAT $48.70 in chips
Seat 4 - COLEKC $22.25 in chips
Seat 5 - CHUNKELUVR53 $7.80 in chips
Seat 8 - 10N2OFFSUIT $11.25 in chips
Seat 9 - THEEGGMAN $28 in chips
*** BLIND [dealer 9] ***
ACEOFSPADES - Post small blind $0.10
KANBOH - Post big blind $0.25
THEEGGMAN - Pocket [Qh,9h]
GOTURGOAT - Calls $0.25
COLEKC - Folds
CHUNKELUVR53 - Folds
10N2OFFSUIT - Folds
THEEGGMAN - Calls $0.25
ACEOFSPADES - Folds
KANBOH - Checks
*** FLOP [5d,4c,5h] ***
KANBOH - Checks
GOTURGOAT - Checks
THEEGGMAN - Bets $0.50
KANBOH - Calls $0.50
GOTURGOAT - Folds
*** TURN [5d,4c,5h,10h] ***
KANBOH - Checks
THEEGGMAN - Bets $0.75
KANBOH - Calls $0.75
*** RIVER [5d,4c,5h,10h,6h] ***
KANBOH - Checks
THEEGGMAN - Bets $1.50
KANBOH - Folds
THEEGGMAN - returned ($1.50) : not called
*** SHOW DOWN ***
THEEGGMAN - Does not show

#5
Oops. . .
Stage #161802047: Holdem No Limit $0.10 [ 2005-07-28 22:32:58 ]
Seat 1 - ACEOFSPADES $22.10 in chips
Seat 2 - KANBOH $29.30 in chips
Seat 3 - GOTURGOAT $48.20 in chips
Seat 4 - COLEKC $22.25 in chips
Seat 5 - CHUNKELUVR53 $7.80 in chips
Seat 6 - REBUBULA1174 $20 in chips
Seat 7 - BLEWIS420 $10 in chips
Seat 8 - 10N2OFFSUIT $11.25 in chips
Seat 9 - THEEGGMAN $29.20 in chips
*** BLIND [dealer 2] ***
GOTURGOAT - Post small blind $0.10
COLEKC - Post big blind $0.25
REBUBULA1174 - sitout (wait for BB)
BLEWIS420 - sitout (wait for BB)
THEEGGMAN - Pocket [4c,4s]
CHUNKELUVR53 - Folds
10N2OFFSUIT - Folds
THEEGGMAN - Raises $0.25 to $0.75
ACEOFSPADES - Raises $0.75 to $1.50
KANBOH - Calls $1.50
GOTURGOAT - Folds
COLEKC - Folds
THEEGGMAN - Calls $0.75
*** FLOP [2h,Ad,9h] ***
THEEGGMAN - Checks
ACEOFSPADES - Bets $2.75
KANBOH - Calls $2.75
THEEGGMAN - Folds
*** TURN [2h,Ad,9h,8s] ***
ACEOFSPADES - Bets $3
KANBOH - Calls $3
*** RIVER [2h,Ad,9h,8s,5s] ***
ACEOFSPADES - Bets $1.75
KANBOH - Calls $1.75
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ACEOFSPADES - Show cards [Kc,Ac]
KANBOH - Lost mucks

#6
Read on KANBOH: his VP$IP is about 70% and he'll call down to the river if he gets any piece of the board. COLEKC seems tight/weak.
Stage #161807774: Holdem No Limit $0.10 [ 2005-07-28 22:41:50 ]
Seat 1 - ACEOFSPADES $23.85 in chips
Seat 2 - KANBOH $13.05 in chips
Seat 3 - GOTURGOAT $48.10 in chips
Seat 4 - COLEKC $20.25 in chips
Seat 5 - CHUNKELUVR53 $7.95 in chips
Seat 6 - REBUBULA1174 $37.75 in chips
Seat 7 - BLEWIS420 $9.65 in chips
Seat 9 - THEEGGMAN $25.70 in chips
*** BLIND [dealer 9] ***
ACEOFSPADES - Post small blind $0.10
KANBOH - Post big blind $0.25
THEEGGMAN - Pocket [10d,Kh]
GOTURGOAT - Folds
COLEKC - Calls $0.25
CHUNKELUVR53 - Folds
REBUBULA1174 - Folds
BLEWIS420 - Folds
THEEGGMAN - Raises $0.25 to $0.75
ACEOFSPADES - Folds
KANBOH - Calls $0.50
COLEKC - Calls $0.50
*** FLOP [2c,3h,Kd] ***
KANBOH - Checks
COLEKC - Checks
THEEGGMAN - Bets $0.75
KANBOH - Calls $0.75
COLEKC - Folds
*** TURN [2c,3h,Kd,6h] ***
KANBOH - Checks
THEEGGMAN - Bets $1.50
KANBOH - Calls $1.50
*** RIVER [2c,3h,Kd,6h,Qd] ***
KANBOH - Checks
THEEGGMAN - Bets $2
KANBOH - Calls $2
*** SHOW DOWN ***
THEEGGMAN - Show cards [10d,Kh]
KANBOH - Lost mucks

#7
Ummmm, check/fold the flop?
Stage #161811891: Holdem No Limit $0.10 [ 2005-07-28 22:48:27 ]
Seat 1 - ACEOFSPADES $23.75 in chips
Seat 2 - KANBOH $26.30 in chips
Seat 3 - GOTURGOAT $50.10 in chips
Seat 4 - COLEKC $19 in chips
Seat 5 - CHUNKELUVR53 $7.60 in chips
Seat 6 - REBUBULA1174 $38.10 in chips
Seat 7 - BLEWIS420 $9.40 in chips
Seat 9 - THEEGGMAN $31.40 in chips
*** BLIND [dealer 5] ***
REBUBULA1174 - Post small blind $0.10
BLEWIS420 - Post big blind $0.25
THEEGGMAN - Pocket [10h,10d]
THEEGGMAN - Calls $0.25
ACEOFSPADES - Calls $0.25
KANBOH - Calls $0.25
GOTURGOAT - Folds
COLEKC - Folds
CHUNKELUVR53 - Folds
REBUBULA1174 - Calls $0.15
BLEWIS420 - Checks
*** FLOP [Jc,3h,Ac] ***
REBUBULA1174 - Checks
BLEWIS420 - Checks
THEEGGMAN - Bets $0.50
ACEOFSPADES - Raises $0.50 to $1
KANBOH - Calls $1
REBUBULA1174 - Folds
BLEWIS420 - Folds
THEEGGMAN - Calls $0.50
*** TURN [Jc,3h,Ac,Qs] ***
THEEGGMAN - Checks
ACEOFSPADES - Bets $1.50
KANBOH - Calls $1.50
THEEGGMAN - Calls $1.50
*** RIVER [Jc,3h,Ac,Qs,9c] ***
THEEGGMAN - Checks
ACEOFSPADES - Bets $5
KANBOH - Folds
THEEGGMAN - Folds
ACEOFSPADES - returned ($5) : not called
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ACEOFSPADES - Does not show

#8
TT twice in a row - same loopy(? loose passive) villain as before
Stage #161812995: Holdem No Limit $0.10 [ 2005-07-28 22:50:15 ]
Seat 1 - ACEOFSPADES $29.35 in chips
Seat 2 - KANBOH $23.55 in chips
Seat 3 - GOTURGOAT $50.10 in chips
Seat 4 - COLEKC $19 in chips
Seat 5 - CHUNKELUVR53 $7.60 in chips
Seat 6 - REBUBULA1174 $37.85 in chips
Seat 7 - BLEWIS420 $9.15 in chips
Seat 9 - THEEGGMAN $28.65 in chips
*** BLIND [dealer 6] ***
BLEWIS420 - Post small blind $0.10
THEEGGMAN - Post big blind $0.25
THEEGGMAN - Pocket [10s,10d]
ACEOFSPADES - Folds
KANBOH - Calls $0.25
GOTURGOAT - Folds
COLEKC - Folds
CHUNKELUVR53 - Folds
REBUBULA1174 - Folds
BLEWIS420 - Folds
THEEGGMAN - Checks
*** FLOP [3d,3s,8d] ***
THEEGGMAN - Checks
KANBOH - Checks
*** TURN [3d,3s,8d,7d] ***
THEEGGMAN - Bets $0.50
KANBOH - Calls $0.50
*** RIVER [3d,3s,8d,7d,As] ***
THEEGGMAN - Bets $0.75
KANBOH - Calls $0.75
*** SHOW DOWN ***
THEEGGMAN - Show cards [10s,10d]
KANBOH - Lost mucks

#9
Read on villain: pretty tight, hasn't shown down much but raised 3xbb utg w/44 and isn't very aware.
Stage #161813652: Holdem No Limit $0.10 [ 2005-07-28 22:51:18 ]
Seat 1 - ACEOFSPADES $29.35 in chips
Seat 2 - KANBOH $22.05 in chips
Seat 3 - GOTURGOAT $50.10 in chips
Seat 4 - COLEKC $19 in chips
Seat 5 - CHUNKELUVR53 $7.60 in chips
Seat 6 - REBUBULA1174 $37.85 in chips
Seat 7 - BLEWIS420 $9.05 in chips
Seat 9 - THEEGGMAN $30.10 in chips
*** BLIND [dealer 7] ***
THEEGGMAN - Post small blind $0.10
ACEOFSPADES - Post big blind $0.25
THEEGGMAN - Pocket [Ad,Kc]
KANBOH - Calls $0.25
GOTURGOAT - Folds
COLEKC - Folds
CHUNKELUVR53 - Folds
REBUBULA1174 - Folds
BLEWIS420 - Folds
THEEGGMAN - Raises $0.15 to $1.25
ACEOFSPADES - Calls $1
KANBOH - Calls $1
*** FLOP [Kh,Ah,8h] ***
THEEGGMAN - Bets $2.25
ACEOFSPADES - Calls $2.25
KANBOH - Folds
*** TURN [Kh,Ah,8h,4c] ***
THEEGGMAN - Bets $3.50
ACEOFSPADES - Calls $3.50
*** RIVER [Kh,Ah,8h,4c,Qs] ***
THEEGGMAN - Bets $5
ACEOFSPADES - Calls $5
*** SHOW DOWN ***
THEEGGMAN - Show cards [Ad,Kc]
ACEOFSPADES - Lost mucks
*** RESULT ***
Total Pot($25.25) Rake ($1.25)
Board [Kh,Ah,8h,4c,Qs]
ACEOFSPADES - HI: [Lost mucks]

#10
1/2 the table was so passive I decided to lagg it up a bit. oops.
Stage #161828410: Holdem No Limit $0.10 [ 2005-07-28 23:15:05 ]
Seat 1 - LUCKYCAT $8.90 in chips
Seat 2 - KANBOH $47.15 in chips
Seat 3 - GOTURGOAT $49.50 in chips
Seat 4 - COLEKC $19.60 in chips
Seat 5 - CHUNKELUVR53 $12.30 in chips
Seat 6 - REBUBULA1174 $35.20 in chips
Seat 7 - BLEWIS420 $8.25 in chips
Seat 8 - IPLAYALOT $40.86 in chips
Seat 9 - THEEGGMAN $33.75 in chips
*** BLIND [dealer 9] ***
LUCKYCAT - Post small blind $0.10
KANBOH - Post big blind $0.25
THEEGGMAN - Pocket [9h,4c]
GOTURGOAT - Folds
COLEKC - Folds
CHUNKELUVR53 - Folds
REBUBULA1174 - Calls $0.25
BLEWIS420 - Folds
IPLAYALOT - Calls $0.25
THEEGGMAN - Calls $0.25
LUCKYCAT - Folds
KANBOH - Checks
*** FLOP [Jc,4d,4h] ***
KANBOH - Checks
REBUBULA1174 - Bets $0.75
IPLAYALOT - Folds
THEEGGMAN - Calls $0.75
KANBOH - Folds
*** TURN [Jc,4d,4h,Qc] ***
REBUBULA1174 - Checks
THEEGGMAN - Bets $1
REBUBULA1174 - Calls $1
*** RIVER [Jc,4d,4h,Qc,6d] ***
REBUBULA1174 - Bets $4
THEEGGMAN - Calls $4
*** SHOW DOWN ***
REBUBULA1174 - Show cards [6h,6c]
THEEGGMAN - Lost mucks

Could I have folded when he came alive on the river? I know, I know fold preflop.

I appreciate any insight you NL ring gamers can give me. Peace

hand #1:

you have 4 to the flop and a caller on the flop. when the scare card hits the turn ESPECIALLY against a shortstack you can check/fold it. you have no redraws against a flush and youre basically SOL there. by betting 6/7 his stack youre telling him youll double him up while giving him no chance to let you know youre behind. at 25nl this is just a time to swallow your pride and move on.


hand #2:

worked out well for you, but i dont play AQo utg. i dont like raising nor do i like calling with it.


hand #3:

i like it. if youre playing it as if HU you might as well bet the turn and check the river though...instead of giving him the free card. i like the way you played it regardless though.


hand #4:

fold preflop, not worth it. you have 1 caller before you in addition to the blinds, you need a few more before you can limp behind here.


hand #5:

why are you raising preflop? sets are much more profitable in multiway pots rather than hu.


hand #6:

i like it, but id make your continuation bets a bit larger. youre betting close to 1/4 pot on the flop.


hand #7:

check/fold that flop all day long. your preflop limp is to hit a set or a rag flop only. no point in limping and repping a good ace...


hand #8:

i like all streets. the ace on the river has to scare you, but by betting it you provide a blocking bet. i like it.


hand #9:

standard.


hand #10:

raise/fold preflop, calling is gay. you have position and want to come in...so raise it up. im surprised you flat called the river. im willing to go AI with this hand.

1. Well, with two hands in and a straight/flush board you are pretty much dead if anyone sees the river. You can try a BIG bet on that flop and hope to push both of them off the hand but if they see more cards, give it right up.

2. AQ is not a raising hand for me UTG, but otherwise played fine

3. you played fine. Maybe bet .50 on the turn - could go either way

4. looks like another drawing hand - this time you're in position

5. Why raise that? I would've folded to the reraise - you are not getting odds to play that through

6. this guy loves to draw so you are making him pay - if I find someone like this I usually step up the betting just a tad - they usually will call it

7. check/fold the flop

8. looks like he's trying to improve again - if he ever raises, fold

9. Bet more on the turn - go to $6 there, this will allow you to bet the river harder still

10. fold PF, two guys ahead of you

Hand 1) Online poker is not rigged. The turn brings a tough decision though. There were 4 players to the flop, and 3 to the turn after your fairly large flop bet. I think this is a situation where you have to check/fold or check/call to small bets.

Hand 2) AQ is usually the worst hand I'll raise UTG in a full ring game. There was 1 caller to your preflop raise, throw out a continuation bet on the flop. Checking the flop and betting small on the turn worked here, but it usually won't.

Hand 3) I'd play this similar to heads up, keep in mind though there were 8 folds in front of you, meaning there is probably a slightly higher then normal chance your opponent has high cards, and he has position on you. I think I'd bet the turn as well.

Hand 4) Fold preflop.

Hand 5) Limp preflop with 44 and call any 'normal' preflop raise. Play for the set and look to get out of the hand if it doesn't hit.

Hand 6) Fold preflop.

Hand 7) 5 way action on the flop with 2 overcards to your TT. Check/fold here.

Hand 8) I would bet the flop with an overpair here. The board is 338, 2 suited with one opponent. TT is usually the best hand here.

Hand 9) Well played. Obviously you have to be aware of the 3-suited flop and someone slowplaying a made flush. I think its pretty clear that ACEOFSPADES was holding Qh.

Hand 10) Fold preflop. It's hard to play LAgg when limping in to a 4 way flop. Regaurdless, you flopped trips with your 94o and you have to play it agressively. Get the 66 type hands out.

- Lukie

Originally Posted by journey075

hand #1:
at 25nl this is just a time to swallow your pride and move on.

Yep. So would you just go into check/fold after they both called my flop bet?

Originally Posted by journey075

hand #4:
fold preflop, not worth it. you have 1 caller before you in addition to the blinds, you need a few more before you can limp behind here.

Yeah, I see your point. Not enough people in to make this hand worth much $ long term.

Originally Posted by journey075

hand #5:
why are you raising preflop? sets are much more profitable in multiway pots rather than hu.

Yep. Dumb.

Originally Posted by journey075

hand #6:
i like it, but id make your continuation bets a bit larger. youre betting close to 1/4 pot on the flop.

Yeah, I'm still figuring out what size bets people will call with weaker hands. I just hate being called down to the river just to find that I was beat the whole time.

Originally Posted by journey075

hand #10:
raise/fold preflop, calling is gay. you have position and want to come in...so raise it up.

Yes. I realized this afterward. "Lagg it up" and limp? I forgot the "agg" in lagg means aggressive. Derrrr.

Originally Posted by DimitriT

1. Well, with two hands in and a straight/flush board you are pretty much dead if anyone sees the river.

Very good point. I couldn't get it HU because I didn't know how much to raise being the very 1st hand. Gotta take it down on the flop or let it go.

Originally Posted by DimitriT

5. Why raise that? I would've folded to the reraise - you are not getting odds to play that through

Agreet. Oops.

Originally Posted by DimitriT

6. this guy loves to draw so you are making him pay - if I find someone like this I usually step up the betting just a tad - they usually will call it

I think you're right. I could've probably made more $ off of him. He ended up quadding up by calling a flop allin with something like 78s and destacking his opps by rivering his flush.

Originally Posted by DimitriT

8. looks like he's trying to improve again - if he ever raises, fold

lol

Originally Posted by DimitriT

9. Bet more on the turn - go to $6 there, this will allow you to bet the river harder still

Much better line here. I could've built it up there and really made some money. I was pretty surprised that he called my river bet without a set or better.

Originally Posted by Lukie

Hand 1) I think this is a situation where you have to check/fold or check/call to small bets.

Agreet. Tried to blindly bowl 'em over and got bit.

Originally Posted by Lukie

Hand 5) Limp preflop with 44 and call any 'normal' preflop raise. Play for the set and look to get out of the hand if it doesn't hit.

Yeah, that's my normal way to play small pps but - ?????

Originally Posted by Lukie

Hand 6) Fold preflop.

I don't really agree here. I'm in the CO with folds behind, and with a 3xbb PFR I'm pretty sure I'm going to take down the blinds or only get called by Ax or a loose player with a worse hand. It did work out perfectly in this situation I admit, but it seems like this hand would be easy to get away from if I don't hit.

Originally Posted by Lukie

Hand 10) Fold preflop. It's hard to play LAgg when limping in to a 4 way flop. Regaurdless, you flopped trips with your 94o and you have to play it agressively. Get the 66 type hands out.

I know. Weak/dumb. I forgot the meaning of Lagg when I posted this

TYVM for the replies guys. When I’m playing NL cash games I’m a lot more nervous/conservative/unsure than I am when I’ve got $5-10 on the line in tourney play. I really appreciate you taking the time to analyze my plays here. Peace.

Originally Posted by Theeggman

Originally Posted by Lukie

Hand 6) Fold preflop.

I don't really agree here. I'm in the CO with folds behind, and with a 3xbb PFR I'm pretty sure I'm going to take down the blinds or only get called by Ax or a loose player with a worse hand. It did work out perfectly in this situation I admit, but it seems like this hand would be easy to get away from if I don't hit.

You are OTB holding KTo with an early position limper. Reads definately help here. The limper likely has a small PP or a marginal hand that has you dominated, ie. KJ, KQ, AT, etc. I personally fold here, but you have position and if you are confident in your post-flop skills, I don't necessarily think a raise is a bad play here.