Quote Originally Posted by arkana
There is about a 35% chance that one of your opponents has a Jack if they have random hands. Seing as its a broadway card which is more likely to be played (throw in 22 as well, plus some oddly played QQ) I would think its probably closer to 40-50% that you will be behind here. Bet the flop (1/2 to 3/4), if you get more than one caller then shut down. If you get one caller then I like checking the turn and seeing how much he bets if he does, weak players will prob check behind with any hand that you beat.
wow i totally disagree.

Betting here is just horrible.

Id rather just check and fold for $14 invested and a missed flop than bet half the pot here on what is effecitly 2nd pair in a multiway pot with two outs.
betting just makes no sense to me considering any spade and any over card is pretty scary never mind the fact that to defend our hand we have to put a lot of money in the pot on the long assumption our hand is best. Further, the math suggests if we half pot it we are dumb to fold to a push or multiway all in.
if we check we learn a hell of a lot more considering we know how many of the hands that will stick around in this spot will play this pot.