Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
I would put it this way: any understanding of the human world is going to have to sample from a lot of sources. You're relying heavily on one source. I'm chipping away at it to show that it isn't the be all end all.

So I bring up violence as a means to an end because it is obviously under-represented in your Libertarian beliefs. Literally the central belief of Libertarianism is that it's just not a problem. You can respond by saying, "But look at the richness of my beliefs!" and I'll still be here, kicking dirt in the eye of your Goddess Libertine.
I agree that libertarianism does not message well. I try to use historical and economical reasoning; whereas many libertarians just say "but if there was no violence..."