i say american boxing because thats what its called. its a wee less ambiguous than boxing. i guess i could have called it western boxing, which is probably the least ambiguous.

this is not an apples and oranges comparison like the jopkes youre making. both mma and boxing are very much relevant to bareknuckle boxing, however, they are different in their own ways. this was for speculating in what ways and how much. also bareknuckle is not a sport because the athletes would all have broken knuckles. big reason for why western boxing exists.

anyways

Quote Originally Posted by wes
The boxer wins hands down. There is no comparison between the hand speed and combinations of a boxer and an mma fighter. Thats all they train for, as opposed to the mma guys that have to train for everything. I prefer boxing but i like mma when they dont dry hump.


The best boxer ever is Sugar Ray Robinson. He was 85-0 as an amateur with 69 of those victories coming by way of knockout, 40 in the first round. He turned professional in 1940 at the age of 19 and by 1951 had a professional record of 128-1-2 with 84 knockouts. He was the guy that Ali worshipped and tried to be like. Nuff said.
i agree that the boxer wins, but for different reasons that youd expect.

gloved boxing seems like its more specific to bareknuckle boxing, which it may be, but ive been wondering how much of a technical deviation is utilized due to the fact that gloves are used. this allows for taking many more punches, taking lighter punches, far more endurance since more punches are thrown, and possibly an entirely different structural approach than bareknuckle. this type of thing wouldn't be apparent in in mma except that in mma they have to compensate for the takedown and strikes from the lower body. again this will change things but how much i do not know. im actually guessing that the change isn't too much, and that mma standup is more like bareknuckle than western boxing is, but probably only slightly if at all.

my reason for thinking a boxer would be better at bareknuckle is genetic selection. its no coincidence that a majority of mma are from a different gene pool than boxers. i speculate this is because shorter stockier builds are more conducive to grappling while longer builds have the better leverages for boxing.

and do you really think sugar ray is the greatest ever? consider the competition. he may have been the best of his time, but has not training, drugs, and genetic selection improved since then?