what song are you listening to?.... thread...

[OngBonga]

Those next two tracks are drum and bass.

Shit drum and bass, I might add. I hate that "liquid" sound, it feels like lift music with half decent beats. I want fucking BASS. And nasty beats.

[OngBonga]

It's been a while since I listened to d&b, I could go on a session here...

[OngBonga]

Fucking three minute intros.... pros and cons

[OngBonga]

Can't just cane BC... aha Benny Page...

[OngBonga]

Had to rummage through my vinyl to hunt this fucker down... this is a favourite of mine from my DJing days... fucking huge tune, astonishing this only has 200 odd hits.

[OngBonga]

Anyone like clown core?

[oskar]

I'm a bit late on the Dinosaur Jr train... which is weird... I listened to The Notwist in the 90's but somehow missed Dinosaur Jr's.

[MadMojoMonkey]

DOMi vid: The drummer is about 10x better than the keys. IDK. Maybe it was just that piece.
The keys were so rhythmically bland. It's like the drummer's throwing all the options over, but the keys are just not having it.
Sure... the spicey chords are something. Not saying the keys were bad... just not on par with the drums.

[oskar]

DOMi vid: The drummer is about 10x better than the keys. IDK. Maybe it was just that piece.
The keys were so rhythmically bland. It's like the drummer's throwing all the options over, but the keys are just not having it.
Sure... the spicey chords are something. Not saying the keys were bad... just not on par with the drums.

The drummer is insane for a 15yo but that doesn't mean the 16yo on keys is any less impressive.

[MadMojoMonkey]

Tierra Whack beat is hypnotizing.
Lots of good lines in there.

[MadMojoMonkey]

Is Dinosaur Jr. still around? I listened to them in the 90's. J. Mascus is a phenomenal guitarist. Hard to find too many people laying down the stuff he does AND sing over it. Normally if you have a guitarist that talented, they don't approach a mic.

[MadMojoMonkey]

That kid's got potential, but his timing's all over the place. The bass line is amazing, and he's really close to it, but he's just a bit ahead of the beat in some places and behind it in others.

I love it when he locks in, though, and his head nods are so extreme.

[Poopadoop]

Whoever recorded that video needs a lesson in mixing. All I can hear is bass and some faint sounds in the background.

Kids pretty good for 6 or 8 or whatever though.

[Poopadoop]

And if we're talking about great lyricists, I don't think anyone beats Neil Young:

"Old man look at my life
twenty-four and there's so much more
Live alone in a paradise that makes me think of two
Love lost such a cost
Give me things that don't get lost
Like a coin that won't get tossed
Rolling home to you"

or

"We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man
We got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand
Keep on rockin' in the free world"

or

"My my, hey hey
rock and roll is here to stay
it's better to burn out than it is to rust
my my, hey hey"

or

"I was down in Dixieland
played a silver fiddle
played it loud and then the man
broke it down the middle"

or possibly the best line of all time

"This old world keeps spinnin' round
It's a wonder tall trees ain't laying down
There comes a time"

[MadMojoMonkey]

It is a wonder tall trees ain't laying down. Atmospheric pressure can only lift water about 34 feet. Plants typically suck from the leaves, rather than pump from the roots. This puts a height limit of ~34' on the tallest plants. However, plenty of trees are taller than this. They don't have high pressure pumps in their roots. How they do it is quite interesting.

[Poopadoop]

Yah, I'm pretty sure that's what he was thinking.

[OngBonga]

Probably the greatest hip-hop tune in existence...if you can call it hip-hop. I'd call it modern classical, but that's me.

[Poopadoop]

Probably the greatest hip-hop tune in existence...if you can call it hip-hop. I'd call it modern classical, but that's me.

That's pretty cool.

[OngBonga]

More an ensemble than orchestra but let's not split hairs.

[OngBonga]

The entire album was made by samples, the first such album. There's an orchestra that performs the album using just instruments, they're magnificent.

Here's them doing the tune above...



Awesome drummer.

[Jack Sawyer]

I see your breaktbeat, and I raise you an R4: Direct Audio

[triumphant cracker]

I see your breaktbeat, and I raise you an R4: Direct Audio

Omg. I used to play that game allll the time! Cool soundtrack, i forgot all about it. Thanks Jack.

[oskar]

https://dawnofmidi.bandcamp.com/

[triumphant cracker]

Blue Stahli - Suit up

[oskar]

The group I've enjoyed most consistently last year was Death Grips. I was late on the Death Grips train even though I liked Hella and I liked a couple other Zach Hill projects.

[oskar]

[triumphant cracker]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNdC_3LR2AI&app=desktop

[OngBonga]

Ricky Gervais does reggae, with possibly the greatest rap of all time...

http://<a href="https://www.youtube....mTV62mE1PA</a>

[OngBonga]

Fuck;s sake I can't post videos.

[OngBonga]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmTV62mE1PA

dirty plain link it is then

[OngBonga]

[MadMojoMonkey]

Was expecting some low-brow humor. Got a treatise on equality. Winning.

[oskar]

That was the downfall of the Brent On The Road movie. The songs were too good and it hurt the comedy. There's no situation where I'm alone in a car and not singing Freelove Freeway to myself.

[OngBonga]

An hour of ambient trance. Possibly my favourite German...

[OngBonga]

The Fall's last great track...

[OngBonga]

One for Mojo...
The singer is the son of Hugh Everett III, the father of the Many Worlds interpretation of QM.

Fucking great band.

[MadMojoMonkey]

Those 2 hits on "8 and" of the count are unforgettable.

1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 + 7 + 8 +

I had to google it because I knew I'd heard that one before. It was in the movie "Road Trip."

[OngBonga]

Oh wait yeah I know what you mean. Hard to put into words that noise.

[MadMojoMonkey]

Oh wait yeah I know what you mean. Hard to put into words that noise.

Yeah.


If I said it's like a muted, distorted, MIDI-clavichord-y sound that goes "bom bom" at the end of every riff (loop),

would that have been any better?

[OngBonga]

Oh yeah this was in Road Trip, I forgot about that. Decent film that was.

No idea what you're referring to with the numbers.

[OngBonga]

It's one of those things that's easier to say than type!

[MadMojoMonkey]

This guy is blowing up the past couple weeks. If you haven't heard of him, yet. Check this shi-it out!



He doesn't fret a single note. It's all done with harmonics and the pitch bending tuners.
Hitting the super high notes up near the nut, and then later his right hand technique over the pickups is just epic.


Sorry to the non-guitarists for that, but for you all: notice that he's only just barely touching the strings the entire time.

[Poopadoop]

That's pretty cool.

[oskar]

[MadMojoMonkey]

I don't think I'm being silly when I say these 2 are of the same caliber of virtuoso.

But I've said some pretty silly things along that line in my life.

[oskar]

I don't think I'm being silly when I say these 2 are of the same caliber of virtuoso.

I don't know who you are or what you want, but I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you.

[MadMojoMonkey]

I don't know who you are or what you want, but I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you.

[OngBonga]

My favourite bassist...

[MadMojoMonkey]

My favourite bassist...

It has its moments. IDK if I can get over the electronica element of it to eventually like it. It's pretty rare that I get over that. Which isn't at all fair to the music, but them's the brakes in a subjective field.



It kinda triggers my 'old guy' though.
Do you really need to play the same measure 4 times in a row? Oh now the next measure gets 4 times, too?

Also, I have other emotions aside from hyper-mania, so why is it every song these days thinks the only way to increase tension is by increasing metric subdivisions? I.e. there are other ways to increase tension aside from increasing the number of notes per bar.

That's mostly tongue-in-cheek criticism. I have to listen to a song more than 1 or 2 times to know how I really feel about it, and those 2 critiques are my standard, "This is new and different, but these damn kids still think playing faster is adding emotional content." response.

[oskar]

It kinda triggers my 'old guy' though.
Do you really need to play the same measure 4 times in a row? Oh now the next measure gets 4 times, too?

That is the second worst criticism of Hard Normal Daddy I have ever heard.
I would say a lot of times in electronic music you have the drums taking the role of the melody while bass or melody takes the role of keeping time like this:



So complaining that the melody is simplistic is besides the point because it's not in focus.

But on HND everything is working together and every track is a meticulously written out piece where hardly anything repeats. If it did I would still defend it.

[OngBonga]

Don't ever forget this band exist...

[Poopadoop]

^ More or less agree.

It's impressive to listen to someone play super fast, but that's often irrelevant to how good a song is.

Seems like some guys think the goal of a musician is to be faster than anyone else. There is good music that is also fast, so it's good to be able to play fast, but at some point it reaches a speed where the sound just becomes a blur and you can't really process it. That's not "good music" imho, it's just a guy playing really fast. Also, nowadays you can get a synth to play any speed you want it to, so musicianship has to revolve around more nuanced skills like timing and volume control.

Yngwe Malmstein is my favourite example of super fast but otherwise unimpressive. It's just not music I want to listen to, so after I hear it once I go 'well done', but I don't want to go buy his records.

Eddie van Halen's "Eruption" is another where you kind of go 'aaah, that's fast', but it's not really much of a piece of music in any other way. His "best" songwriting AND guitaring imo are evident on a lot of other songs - Pretty Woman, Ain't Talking 'Bout Love, or Jamie is Crying all spring to mind.

[oskar]

[OngBonga]

It's not all fast bass playing. Some of Hard Normal Daddy is a little more melodic.

[OngBonga]

The best music to listen to if you don't think you like electronica but you want to be sure is probably Aphex Twin, but you have to be selective because he's diverse as fuck, and some of his stuff is really spazzy, while other tracks are beautifully ambient. That one oskar posted is definitely an easy listening one though.

If you've got ten minutes and want a peek into the twisted side of Aphex Twin...

NOT SAFE FOR WORK - N-WORD WARNING

[OngBonga]

It's largely because the electronica is so good that I do like it. I kinda agree about playing fast for the sake of it, but if you're going to create beats and breaks to fit, then I'm interested. If you don't particularly like elec, then Squarepusher isn't for you!

[OngBonga]

That AFX tune is great.

[Poopadoop]

Lauro wrote some great melodies that are in perpetual motion, and aren't at 1000 bpm,



I think electronica is mainly for zoning out on when you're stoned. I don't think it's very interesting musically. There's some interesting ideas in it but as a whole it is boring music, sorry.

[oskar]

Lauro wrote some great melodies that are in perpetual motion, and aren't at 1000 bpm,



I think electronica is mainly for zoning out on when you're stoned. I don't think it's very interesting musically. There's some interesting ideas in it but as a whole it is boring music, sorry.

If you want to give Aphex Twin a shot, his most accessible EP is probably I Care Because You Do. He has all his records available for free: https://aphextwin.warp.net/

His best work is no doubt on Drukqs.

But there's a massive amount of electronic music out there. I don't know how you can dismiss what is essentially just how the music is performed. There are loads of orchestras interpreting electronic music as well. I'm not a big fan of most of it, it just feels like they're trying to legitimize something that is already legitimate.

I started playing in bands really young and we were dismissive of electronic music, but then in 97 The Fat Of The Land and Hard Normal Daddy came out and that was that. I still remember the shop put the wrong price sticker on The Fat Of The Land and I got it for real cheap. I was excited about that. I ended up trading it for The Number Of The Beast at summer camp.

[Poopadoop]

His best work is no doubt on Drukqs.

I listened to the first 45 seconds of the first song on this and it's the same rhythym and pretty much the same eight notes played over and over. Already bored. It's like dude, if you're going somewhere with this, then go there already.

There's more melodic content in literally the first 5 seconds of that Lauro piece I posted than in the first 45 sec of this.

Maybe it's just how I'm tuned, dunno. I just don't have the patience for it.

[MadMojoMonkey]

You described Yngwie Malmsteen perfectly, IMO.

Note that EVH's Eruption was just a practice / warm up thing he used to do in the studio and the recording engineer was like, "What is that? We should put it on the album!"


I'm not bashing repetitive music. It's just not for me. Dance music hinges around repetitive beats and electronica is prevalent in dance music, so that's 2 things that already put me off a bit. I'm a clumsy person and awful dancer, so dance music doesn't appeal to me. It's not fair, but it's subjectively true for me.

I have to admit that many of my favorite songs are very repetitive if you take away the lyrics.

I'm not saying anything is "bad" music. Not at all. I know better than to underestimate the power of music that doesn't appeal to me.


I saw Aphex Twin live in 2000, I think. In a small bar in Seattle. There were maybe 30 people there in small, scattered groups and they were giving off a fairly strong hipster vibe, if I'm remembering correctly. I sipped a gin and tonic and tried to wrap my head around what I was hearing and came away thinking something along the lines of, "I guess that was music." in a kind of eye-opening but not inspiring kind of way.

[oskar]

Maybe, but check out the syncopation on this baby:

[Poopadoop]

^ If the video doesn't give you epilepsy the music will.

[OngBonga]

I saw Aphex Twin live in 2000, I think. In a small bar in Seattle. There were maybe 30 people there in small, scattered groups and they were giving off a fairly strong hipster vibe, if I'm remembering correctly. I sipped a gin and tonic and tried to wrap my head around what I was hearing and came away thinking something along the lines of, "I guess that was music." in a kind of eye-opening but not inspiring kind of way.

Funny. He's definitely odd. But he's certainly a genius. That word is thrown around pretty casually when it comes to music but in his case it's not a misuse of the word. He'll be remembered for a long time.

The Drukqs stuff is crazy. Good, but I wouldn't say it's his best. Selected Ambient Works for me.



Fat of the Land by Prodigy was a weird album. Good, but a lot more commercial than what they had previously done. It really doesn't compare to the first two albums.

[OngBonga]

Anyone like psychedelia?

[OngBonga]

Everyone needs this song in their life.

[spoonitnow]

Here's you some country rap Ong

[OngBonga]

Nah.

I like some rap, but preferably with a techno flavour rather than hip hop.

[OngBonga]

One more from them. THIS is how to do blackface. And whiteface. Jesus this bitch is hot as fuck.

[oskar]

Die Antwoord was on fire for their first two albums. I wonder what they're up to.

Miley with a solid Mazzy Star cover:

[spoonitnow]

Idk if you eurotrash will know who Garth Brooks is, but he's one of the biggest country music stars of all time (possibly the biggest).

He also had an emo rock album that a lot of people don't know about under the name Chris Gaines. It's fucking creepy to see him in eyeliner.

[MadMojoMonkey]

OK, so this is a couple years old, but I only just came across it. It's blowing my mind.



At first, I was like... that technique is off the charts good. Resolving the melody in alternate octaves is hooking me in.
What the hell is that solo? Just crazy mishmash of techniques isn't really hitting... oh wait... no way... oh wow... that's not a mishmash, it was just going over my head. Oh wow.

[OngBonga]

Impressive and somewhat unsettling at the same time. Not in any hurry to listen again.

[OngBonga]

Probably the best band in the world.

[MadMojoMonkey]

The song is fine, but I don't speak Spanish, so I don't know what it's about.

I tried to google translate the song title and all I got was "Blonde Cinnamon." So that's not too helpful.

Anyway... the music is top notch. I can see why you dig it.