Banana's right, the rest of your are wrong, pack it in, thread's over.
The government should fuck all the way the fuck off with trying to control shit it shouldn't even come close to trying to control like wearing a fucking seat belt.
12-20-2017 07:53 PM
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Banana's right, the rest of your are wrong, pack it in, thread's over. | |
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12-20-2017 08:02 PM
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12-20-2017 08:03 PM
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lolspoon is such a troll. | |
12-20-2017 08:35 PM
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Sure. That being a reasonable proposition isn't something I intended to present. |
12-20-2017 09:05 PM
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The same line of thinking that the government should be able to make it illegal to not wear a seat belt is the same line of thinking that led to the government making it illegal to get fucked in the ass in the privacy of your own home. It's trying to regulate personal choice based on irrational lines of thought, much like the almighty war on drugs has been doing for decades to great acclaim, when the fact of the matter is that the government has no business doing it in the first place. | |
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12-20-2017 10:08 PM
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I wonder if the points each "side" here is making are going past the heads of the other side. Here's why I say that. |
12-20-2017 10:48 PM
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12-20-2017 11:15 PM
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I have a thought experiment where it could happen. |
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12-20-2017 11:51 PM
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Assuming people are ridiculous is practical. | |
12-21-2017 08:31 AM
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It's not surprising that it takes using your imagination to think of a scenario where the government can efficiently do anything. | |
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12-21-2017 08:52 AM
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Spoon - the gov't has a right to intervene when it can be incontrovertibly demonstrated that the gov't can make a better decision than you otherwise would, or could. |
12-21-2017 08:57 AM
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Wuf...the thing you're missing on education is 'risk'. |
12-21-2017 12:33 PM
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By that logic, the government has the right to control exactly what each person eats and drinks at all times. That's just one simple example of why you're wrong. | |
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12-21-2017 01:00 PM
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12-21-2017 01:04 PM
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12-21-2017 01:14 PM
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You're wrong because you're insisting on absolutes. By your logic, I should be able to eat sheet-rock screws. Yet, if I go into the cafeteria at lunchtime and open up a tupperware bin of jagged steel shards I can assure you that eventually some representative of the government would stop me, even by force if necessary. And they would be right to. |
12-21-2017 01:18 PM
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Not true. |
12-21-2017 01:30 PM
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12-21-2017 01:45 PM
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If Walmart raised prices and people bought the same goods at those higher prices, it would mean that their willingness to pay was higher than previously thought, which means they valued the goods higher than previously thought. As far as measuring the value they put on the goods, really the only reliable metric is what they pay, though that may not represent willingness to pay or the "true" value they place on the goods if the price is not "perfectly" set. |
12-21-2017 02:04 PM
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I sense some closeted-rage there spoon. It's ok to be gay. Come on out. |
12-21-2017 02:07 PM
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How do we know? |
12-21-2017 02:49 PM
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The same way know to forcefully institutionalize someone choosing to eat sheet-rock screws. As I explained to spoon, I'm really not explicitly informed on teh exact letter of the law in these cases, but I certainly believe that precedents exist that illustrate whereabouts the line is. |
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12-21-2017 03:08 PM
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This goes both ways if we're talking individual consumers. If we're talking private sector, the only information it doesn't have that the government has is government secrets. And there is a ton of information that the private sector has that government doesn't. |
12-21-2017 03:10 PM
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I'm not closeted. What kind of fucking bigot are you? | |
Last edited by spoonitnow; 12-21-2017 at 03:19 PM. | |
12-21-2017 03:27 PM
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Alright, I'm bored with this for now. Being an S-J-dub for an afternoon was a lot of fun though (speaking to the approach, not the content). They really are fucking insane. | |
Last edited by spoonitnow; 12-21-2017 at 07:51 PM. | |
12-21-2017 03:55 PM
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...post duplicated for some reason |
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12-21-2017 03:55 PM
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Whatever the cause, there's clearly a self-deprecating rage boiling inside of you. |
12-21-2017 04:00 PM
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12-21-2017 04:47 PM
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Do consumers have that information? Do you trust the private sector to share that information with you? How do you know that the the private sector is employing standards and practices that meet your individual requirements. |
12-21-2017 05:00 PM
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12-21-2017 05:11 PM
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I would say it's a bit silly to be 'proud' of an orientation you didn't choose, but it's also silly to be ashamed of it. The loud and proud types I think are asserting their right to sexual freedom to others who feel they should be ashamed. It's a "fu" to those people imo. | |
12-21-2017 05:38 PM
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If your google is telling you about "gay adventures hiking" when you're just trying to find a group to go hiking with I think you're in denial about some things & need to be more discrete with your browsing history. |
12-21-2017 05:45 PM
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Consumers make up the private sector. When we speak in aggregates (which we are), the private sector adjusts to all available information. |
12-21-2017 07:57 PM
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I am, and I do, and I have no idea, but none of that is particularly important. | |
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12-21-2017 08:34 PM
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12-21-2017 09:40 PM
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12-21-2017 09:59 PM
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all i remember is ipoq or whatever his name was had an avatar or something of linetrap (bailey jay) and we all was like hot damn. |
12-21-2017 10:43 PM
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Testosterone levels are down, on average, in men more than any point in history. Add that to women, on average, being a bunch of lard asses more than any point in history, and it's the perfect time for that sort of thing. | |
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12-22-2017 09:09 AM
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When I said "loud and proud" types, I meant the types who express themselves in ways that set gay people back. Like if you wanna have a parade to say we're here, we're queer, get used to it, then fine. But if I look at that parade and I see a half naked freak with a dildo strapped to his head, then I'm going to have much less of an open mind. |
12-22-2017 09:11 AM
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12-22-2017 09:13 AM
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12-22-2017 09:18 AM
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I've been told they aren't opinions, but fallacies. |
12-22-2017 09:37 AM
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I agree that kind of 'openness' lacks a certain dignity but if you don't like it, then don't look at it. It's not like the guy is doing it on your front lawn. | |
12-22-2017 09:58 AM
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So if you joined up with an outdoor group on Meetup.com, went out for a hike, came over a ridge, and saw two straight people going at it......that's ok? |
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12-22-2017 10:32 AM
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Did you even read what I said? | |
12-22-2017 10:46 AM
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Yeah. Maybe I misunderstood "going at it". If we're talking gratuitous, overt, sexual displays....that really isn't appropriate for gay people or straight people. If we're talking casual hand-holding and familiar affection, like the stuff that happens in parks, restaurants, and other public spaces every single day then who the fuck cares. Why does anyone need to be warned about that? |
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12-22-2017 10:58 AM
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I see what you're saying, but this is a poor choice of words because it implies the gay person revealing their sexual identity is somehow 'asking for it'. | |
12-22-2017 11:23 AM
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No, that's not what 'enabled' means at all. |
12-22-2017 11:46 AM
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I'm not going to argue semantics with you. Ok, maybe I am. "Enable" has a negative connotation because one of its meanings is to 'give another authority to do x' whereas another is its use in the context of people carrying out bad behaviour, implying that the 'enabler' is partly responsible for said behaviour - e.g., "enabling an alcoholic to drink". | |
12-22-2017 01:07 PM
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Y'all niggas just fagged this thread right up, huh? |
12-22-2017 01:08 PM
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Correction: Y'all Persons of Color just LGBTQWOP'd this thread right up, huh? |
12-22-2017 04:25 PM
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Wasn't there a psychological study that shows that basic happiness in a person stabalizes over time? Split twins by losing a leg and winning a lottery, and they're basically just as happy 7 years on? Seems to me like the fundamental aspect of economics is to understand how the ruthless and unending desire to expand, devour, and control works in sophisticates like us people. Same as cancer and same as embryo growth. | |
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12-22-2017 04:27 PM
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12-22-2017 04:27 PM
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12-22-2017 04:30 PM
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12-22-2017 05:25 PM
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These are most likely two different ways of defining happiness. Economics uses the term "utility", which is defined best as something like happiness or preferences. An assumption is that when somebody wants Thing A more than Thing B, it's because Thing A -- at least in their own subjective mind -- makes them happier. This is a different concept than the grand "are you happy" type of happiness. |
12-22-2017 05:26 PM
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12-22-2017 05:29 PM
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12-22-2017 05:29 PM
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Because Lao Tzu demands it? |
12-22-2017 05:30 PM
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12-22-2017 05:31 PM
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Well as many games aside, what do you want for Christmas? | |
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12-22-2017 05:35 PM
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A gobby from Portia Doubleday. |
12-22-2017 05:36 PM
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Maybe next Christmas | |
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12-22-2017 05:37 PM
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12-22-2017 05:38 PM
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12-22-2017 10:57 PM
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12-23-2017 02:30 PM
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12-23-2017 02:41 PM
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That sounds suspiciously like something Adolf Hitler would say. - https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/40193 | |
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12-23-2017 02:49 PM
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12-23-2017 02:55 PM
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12-23-2017 03:14 PM
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For a more serious response to this, in a few short bullet points: | |
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12-23-2017 07:08 PM
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12-23-2017 08:28 PM
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You're going to have to do better than that to troll me. | |
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12-23-2017 08:49 PM
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That wiki page seems to be missing some salient facts. There was great concern at the time that Japanese immigrants had come to America with the intention of living under cover until the Emperor commanded them to rise up against their hosts. People were worried that tomato farmers in San Diego were actually Japanese soldiers in disguise. |
12-23-2017 09:09 PM
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And it was still American citizens being put into concentration camps on US soil, no matter how you want to try to spin it. | |
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