Quote Originally Posted by boost
wuf, estimates on how long it will take for race to virtually no longer exist? I mean I for example often come across people who upon meeting me have no clue what race I am. It would seem that as the world becomes more and more globalized the "pure" breeding pools will inevitably shrink until they simply dont exist. So, ya, how long do you think it would take?
I think it will take a very long time till only <10% of the modern population is white. This is because there are large pockets of white society that just don't garner much attention from other ethnicities, and there's still a lot of quasi-racism (think Russia, but many places in Europe and North America). Racism is actually somewhat normal. Back in pre-modern societies, people who looked different than you and your peoples were quite likely to be a threat to your acquisition of resources. The principle is similar to why lions and hyenas hate each other. In modern society, there's no excuse though, but the more different somebody is from what you're used to the more likely you are to not like them. I'm only making this point because even though we could hypothetically 'end' racism, we would never be able to end the innate differences between cultures, and this will perpetuate pockets of society not mingling.

Having said that, in the US, whites will be a minority by 2050 due to immigration from Latin countries and some degree of increased melting pot breeding, but it will still be very regional. In Hawaii, whites are already only like 25% of the population, I think maybe someplace like Texas or Arizona might only be 50% white, but even if the entire US is 40% white, I'm sure there will be several very white regions in Wisconsin or Utah or wherever.

As for when standard is some huge melting pot, it's just really hard to say. Whites are already a massive global minority (think: China, India, Africa, etc), and it's possible that over this century and the next we will find East Asia making a comeback, so to speak, and become the world leaders. I don't see that happening anytime before 2050, though, and even then it will only be in certain aspects that China may become a world leader. For example: US giving up its massive militaristic dominance is loltastic. That will not happen in our lifetime, and it will probably never happen. IMO, we're in a new era of globalization where Rome type paradigms don't apply, and we're not going to see rise and fall of empires much anymore due to interdependence.

Anyways, I would estimate that we're looking at like 2200 or 2300 before power shifts from white hands to the melting pot's hands (but it even could be as far as 3000, but we'll all be made extinct by AI by then), but I really don't know because the further into the future one predicts the higher the margin of error, so it's almost pointless to look that far ahead. It really boils down to incentivizing intermingling of ethnicities, and that requires huge money interests. The US is a great example of this. We're the melting pot simply because we're extremely wealthy and everybody wants to be here. If Norway was the place to be then it would be a melting pot as well, but it's not, and will likely not be any time even remotely close to soon

On a different topic, I predict an even larger gap between rich/poor and ethnicities in the future. This will be due to biotechnology being expensive. There may come a time when wealthy people can have designer babies and smart chips, while poor people still can't afford a dentist visit.

As is obvious, I don't really have much of a direct answer to the question. I just don't know, and I don't think anybody does. The only numbers I've actually seen are the ones involved with US whites being minority around 2050

Also, I never addressed the other end of the race spectrum. I think that Africa will be dominated by blacks for a very long time. Wealthy interests make money by keeping some third world as third world, and the only way for Africa to no longer be dominated by Africans would be if there was massive immigration from wealthy from other races, it hasn't happened that much yet, and I don't think anybody can predict why or how it would happen. There are just so many freaking factors.

Interesting to note, whites tried to emigrate to Africa, but were beaten back by disease. So we're probably going to have to eradicate many diseases before we find wealthy people from modern areas emigrating to humid areas like SE Asia, South America, and Africa