things that tilt you

[rpm]

be the change you wanna see in the world etc etc

[Galapogos]

be the change you wanna see in the world etc etc

This. I hate it when people shoot down a suggestion because it's not an end all solution to an entire issue.

Edit: I mean, does it have a non-zero positive benefit? Yes. Does it take minimal effort on your part? Yes. Then why not fucking do it?

[MadMojoMonkey]

This. I hate it when people shoot down a suggestion because it's not an end all solution to an entire issue.

Edit: I mean, does it have a non-zero positive benefit? Yes. Does it take minimal effort on your part? Yes. Then why not fucking do it?

I totally agree with the sentiment, but it's a bit off topic. I'm not arguing that turning off your lights when you're not using them is bad. I'm arguing that it's probably not nearly as bad as a bunch of other things you do in a day. So letting a single non-issue get you worked up is just a matter of bad scheduling of your time.

My point is that there's an imbalance between what people 'think' they're doing and the actual impact. Sometimes that imbalance can end up in people having an argument that is more wasteful than the topic they're arguing about.

E.g.
If you pick up an American penny off the ground, then you are wasting money. It costs you time and energy to carry that penny around, and you'll never get a return on that investment. It is a waste of money to bend over and pick up a penny. It is a waste of money to put a penny in your car and use that penny to buy gasoline, since you'd spend more than a penny in the extra fuel burned by transporting the penny to the gas station.

So if you pick up pennies because you think it's free money, then you're mistaken. If you pick up pennies to help keep your surroundings litter-free, then it makes sense.

You dig it?