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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan View Post
    "And I can throw this one back at you.. what incentive does a private roadway have to thwart illegal activity that does not impede its operation? What keeps highways from being free passage for all sorts of black market activity?"

    I'm not trying to be petty but there is no such thing as a black market in a totally free market. If your referring, to weapons, drugs, and sex trades, I'll give you one reason: Who wants to drive on that road? Is there anyone who'd prefer a scary road to a nice one? Unless these people are driven by something else besides profit, they would certainly keep the road "clean."
    Correct. Drugs, weapons, and hookers are legal in a free society. There is no black market. The only illegal actions are murder, theft, pollution, and enslavement.

    Asking how they would police their roads is like asking how Disneyland keeps people from murdering each other inside its gates. Irvine CA is a private city and has the lowest crime rate for cities over 100k population in the US. Private police and security forces are effective.

    German roads have no speed limits on many parts and they have the same fatality rates per mile driven as the United States.
    Last edited by Lyric; 09-28-2010 at 10:07 PM.
  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyric View Post

    German roads have no speed limits on many parts and they have the same fatality rates per mile driven as the United States.
    -German roads have very harsh penalties for violating their traffic laws. In the absence of speed limits, changing lanes is highly restricted.

    -I don't want to live in disney land.

    -Are you now advocating a privatized police force? Why not a privatized military as well?
  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by boost View Post
    -German roads have very harsh penalties for violating their traffic laws. In the absence of speed limits, changing lanes is highly restricted.

    -I don't want to live in disney land.

    -Are you now advocating a privatized police force? Why not a privatized military as well?
    I don't want to live in Disney Land either, but I appreciate its clean and safe environment.

    Toll roads can have public police on them as well, but the traffic rules would be generated and enforced by the road owner, not the national government or its police force. Their only job would be preventing theft murder and slavery.

    Offenders would be banned from driving on a road if they break the rules. Road owners would set speed limits and lane change rules and licensing and so forth.
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyric View Post
    Correct. Drugs, weapons, and hookers are legal in a free society. There is no black market. The only illegal actions are murder, theft, pollution, and enslavement.
    Would having sex with children be illegal?

    How about if I bought a dog, took it to the park, and fucked it in front of everyone. Would that be illegal in your utopia?
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash256 View Post
    Would having sex with children be illegal?

    How about if I bought a dog, took it to the park, and fucked it in front of everyone. Would that be illegal in your utopia?
    Lol! Kids are a weird gray area because they are half way between property and humans. Parents feel they "own" them and our morals are not clear regarding when a person becomes an adult.

    Fucking dogs in public would be legal, but public property is very limited; cities are owned and managed like Disney Land, and most cities would probably ban fucking dogs in public.

    It's like asking me if fucking dogs in my house is okay. Nope. Ask my neighbor... nope. Fucking dogs would be restricted to your own home if we all owned our own shit.
  6. #6
    Your above statement makes no sense - anything is allowed by the people that own said area...?

    What if I was born in a city and was born with toes missing. People in said city don't like MOFO's with no toes, so sling me out - this is fair because they own city?

    What about the dogs rights in a city that allows dogs to be fucked???

    What about gays etc etc etc etc why bother with rights at all? Why not let the biggest majority decide how shit goes down? You don't like it? What you gonna do about it?

    Fk me sounds some of the most repressed countries in the world at the moment.
    Normski
  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by WillburForce View Post
    Your above statement makes no sense - anything is allowed by the people that own said area...?

    What if I was born in a city and was born with toes missing. People in said city don't like MOFO's with no toes, so sling me out - this is fair because they own city?

    What about the dogs rights in a city that allows dogs to be fucked???

    What about gays etc etc etc etc why bother with rights at all? Why not let the biggest majority decide how shit goes down? You don't like it? What you gonna do about it?

    Fk me sounds some of the most repressed countries in the world at the moment.
    Personally I don't think dogs should be fucked, but I don't think having police in your home to make sure you are not fucking your dog is a good alternative.

    Some cities would support gay rights, others might be retarded and would not support it until we all realize that gay people are not something to be afraid of.

    I think you should be able to do anything you want on your own property excluding murder, slavery (including rape), and theft. If we choose to include animals in this equation that's fine with me -- don't rape or murder them.
  8. #8
    what about my toeless feet?
    Normski
  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by WillburForce View Post
    what about my toeless feet?
    People will choose to live in cities where mutant-feet children are tossed outside city walls about as often as they choose to live in Afghanistan. Would you stay in a city with this law if the next city over were Disney Land clean with no foot laws?
  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyric View Post
    Lol! Kids are a weird gray area because they are half way between property and humans. Parents feel they "own" them and our morals are not clear regarding when a person becomes an adult.

    Fucking dogs in public would be legal, but public property is very limited; cities are owned and managed like Disney Land, and most cities would probably ban fucking dogs in public.

    It's like asking me if fucking dogs in my house is okay. Nope. Ask my neighbor... nope. Fucking dogs would be restricted to your own home if we all owned our own shit.
    So you wouldn't have an age of consent?

    What about rape? Is that ok?

    While I'm there, if I want to add a really ugly obnoxious extension to my house that blocks all my neighbours views and spoils how the street looks, am I ok to do that?
  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash256 View Post
    So you wouldn't have an age of consent?

    What about rape? Is that ok?

    While I'm there, if I want to add a really ugly obnoxious extension to my house that blocks all my neighbours views and spoils how the street looks, am I ok to do that?
    Like I said, gray area. Age of consent should be determined and enforced based on local morals. It's a blur between being a teen and being an adult and we simply have to pick a number where someone becomes an adult. That's fine. We prevent enslavement, and this is part of it, even if it's not clear when someone can make their own decisions. We just have to pick a number and go with it because growing up is like dying -- we don't just "click" into adulthood anymore than we die suddenly. Most of the time we deteriorate for years before finally kicking the bucket.

    Blocking a view is part of theft. The view has value.

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