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 Originally Posted by vqc
 Originally Posted by boostNslide
thank you sir...
John 3:16 "That GOD so loved the earth that he gave his only begotten son, that who so ever believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting life".
now explain to me where in this it says, by not accepting jesus christ as your savior, you will not be alowed into heaven? Because I sure as hell dont see it. I believe in myself, I believe in vqc, I believe in my freinds and family, I believe in my girlfriend. However I dont accept these people as the son of god, or as my savior. I even believe in jesus christ, I believe in his existence, I believe in the morals of his teachings, I dont not accept him as the son of god, nor do I accept him as my savior.
Youve chosen to interprit this passage in a way that suits you, or you are just following a common interpritation and never stopped to think about it. Either way though, it says nowhere in the bible that by not accepting jesus christ as your savior that you will be barred from heaven. So no, you are not just saying what the bible says, you are putting a spin on it, conciously or unconciously? I dont know, but you are none the less.
Bible says Something
Rabid Dog says that this is wat ti tmeans
Boost says that this is wat it means
Boost is angry becuase the bible doesnt explicitly state anything
But that doenst make a difference becase if the church interprets the work in one way, then thats wat it believes. Period. I dont see why this is so hard to see that u guys are just arguing over the interepretations of a sentence.
Even when boost is saying that the bible doesnt say anyhting on face value, for someone who probably hanst tried to study the bible to any degree wont take it at face value as someoen who has studied the bible in any way.
You guys are taking the meaning of the prhase differently becuase u guys have different degrees of understanding to the phrase. Boost, u might say that the bible doesnt say anything, but to Rabid dog, it does explicitly say something becuase he understands the prhase in a different way.
First off I was mad. And not for that reason, I was angry because of the way rabid handled my questions, I felt insulted. Second I dont believe any intepretation of the bible, I dont believe in the bible, its a book of good moral stories to me. I believe that people interpret the bible, then go around babbling about thes facts that are not only not facts, but not even true quotes of the bible.
Rabid said A is true because of B. I explained that B does not explicitly (as you would say) say A, and therefore he should not be going around saying A is a quote of the bible. I did not set out to prove that people that are good and lead moral lives will be let into heaven no matter what thier faith. I set out to prove what I proved and because the second 'prove' in this sentence is in past tense I succeeded in my goals.
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