Renton getting the recognition he deserves

[thizzSantaCruz]

Well one of our long time posters here recently got recognized for his poker skill. http://www.realpokerrankings.com/LowStakes.html


thanks to massimo for showing me this site.


congrats Renton!

[Lukie]

renton has a good poker mind and a great work ethic

[XTR1000]

congrats Renton and congrats Setzy

[UG]

Nice job, Renton, I've enjoyed talking poker throughout the years with you.

[mcatdog]

Is there anyone on FTR who doesn't think Renton is the man?

[lolzzz_321]

he solicited me with tentacle pr0n

[Galapogos]

Is there anyone on FTR who doesn't think Renton is the man?

I think Renton needs to post more. He was back pretty regularily for a while and generated some really good discusion in the SHNL forum then disappeared again.

[Galapogos]

Oh yeah, and congrats to Renton. But FTRs always given him that recognition.

[spoonitnow]

Yeah, having Rennwurm as #1 is bullshit imo. Dude runs like 9/8 and steals 21-22%.

Congrats Renton and Setzy.

[Deanglow]

Renton motivated to play full ring, and helped me with tons of hands. Definitely one of the best FR small/mid stakes players out there.

[will641]

good job renton!!

on another note, this is a cool website. i didnt know TMACOVERKOB was good. i havent played a lot with him but when i was at a table with him today he was chatting it up with some other guy about how hes too loose to win at these stakes so i assumed he was bad.

[IowaSkinsFan]

1. This is Max, Tom Marchese, and My website.
2. It is still being updated, we just launched it today lol.
3. All rankings are based on winnings.

[will641]

1. This is Max, Tom Marchese, and My website.
2. It is still being updated, we just launched it today lol.
3. All rankings are based on winnings.

why arent you or max on there? or are you trying to be unbiased?

[wufwugy]

Well I'll never get on the list since I don't play a ton of hands. Highest winrates would be a nice touch, but the site that was working that is down.

[wufwugy]

lol sobraoboy plays 2knl now. How?

Oh yea thats right, his luckbox. How could I forget

[spoonitnow]

1. This is Max, Tom Marchese, and My website.
2. It is still being updated, we just launched it today lol.
3. All rankings are based on winnings.

That's pretty awesome. How hard are you guys datamining to get these results?

FWIW, it's about time that there was a rankings website for cash games.

[IowaSkinsFan]

1. This is Max, Tom Marchese, and My website.
2. It is still being updated, we just launched it today lol.
3. All rankings are based on winnings.

That's pretty awesome. How hard are you guys datamining to get these results?

FWIW, it's about time that there was a rankings website for cash games.

We're using a datamining service so its not that much work.

Wuf, i think total winnings is better than winrate, but thats just my opinion. There is also a fan poll, but there are going to be "Expert" rankings as well.

[Renton]

tyty

[euphoricism]

[quote="IowaSkinsFan"]
Wuf, i think total winnings is better than winrate, but thats just my opinion. [./quote]

Agree, especially since its updated weekly. The top few spots should shift around often.

[Jack Sawyer]

gj, renton!

[wufwugy]

Yes total winnings is better than winrate before a point at least. With pure winrate we'll see nothing but fish who ran good for 8 hands or whatever. Is there some way you can include the number of hands played for each person?

Overall, what's important in this game is hourly, not winrate, so that does make total winnings premium, but it still won't show the total of which players are the best since some of us don't play much yet may play very well when we do.

Another thing I think would be awesome is showing results of every player who played 25k+ hands/month. As far as showing who're the most skilled I think this would be the most comprehensive way.

And I don't mean to clown on your shit ISF. You're doing great.

[euphoricism]

I like hourly. Theres no reason we can't have multiple ways of ranking people. Just more work.

[Numbr2intheWorld]

keep the suggestions coming guys, we're always looking for ways to make the site better.

[flomo]

keep the suggestions coming guys, we're always looking for ways to make the site better.

more pics of hot chicks


i like your theme of avatars massimo and isf

[wufwugy]

As far as improvements that I imagine you'd want to address in the near future goes:

Since you're going with the top fifteen performers just start with them and

1. Distinguish sites played on

2. Show hands played

3. Show winrates


Question: Why not have a search function that allows us to search for any player, and we get the information for that player like how realpokerwinnings or whatever that site you found was called was supposed to work? I think a lot of us would find a lot of joy in being able to look up the regs we play with.

It pleases me to see youse guys working on this.

[euphoricism]

The only site datamined is Stars.

And the sort of system you outlined is planned upon, but is rather far out in the future. The point of this site is just to see if theres interest and if interest peaks (IE people check it once and never again) or if it generates enough buzz to actually become profitable.

I'm the guy that designed the webpage btw. Some people didnt get that.

I agree that we should include some stats but we're really not sure which ones we can post (if any) and still stay away from stars' lawyers.

[will641]

keep the suggestions coming guys, we're always looking for ways to make the site better.

put wufwugy's sig. and avatar on there.

[wufwugy]

The only site datamined is Stars.

And the sort of system you outlined is planned upon, but is rather far out in the future. The point of this site is just to see if theres interest and if interest peaks (IE people check it once and never again) or if it generates enough buzz to actually become profitable.

I'm the guy that designed the webpage btw. Some people didnt get that.

I agree that we should include some stats but we're really not sure which ones we can post (if any) and still stay away from stars' lawyers.

Why not roll with FT at first then? Them being cool with datamining will make things easier and possibly much easier.

Seeing how much interest is there is obviously a good thing, but the inclusion of more attributes will generate more interests. Personally, I could care fuckall for the rankings system as is, but if I can see the winrates and hands played of all the regs in my game then I will check the site out from time to time at least and possibly a lot. I'm sure many others will feel this way.

Obviously you gotta start somewhere, but I hope the mistake doesn't get made of not making those sweet improvements if the current setup doesn't garner enough interest.

And yea tons of ass will help.

[Fnord]

Odd, I didn't see any of the names I know Renton plays under...

[IowaSkinsFan]

Renton555 1/2 full ring

[euphoricism]

Seeing how much interest is there is obviously a good thing, but the inclusion of more attributes will generate more interests. Personally, I could care fuckall for the rankings system as is, but if I can see the winrates and hands played of all the regs in my game then I will check the site out from time to time at least and possibly a lot. I'm sure many others will feel this way.

I agree, and trust me, your points are well noted. However ISF and Mass are unsure of the legality of posting those stats (as other sites have been removed from the internet for doing so by other sites)

Anyway, keep suggestions coming.

[will641]

you guys should do weekly updates as well as monthly, because some people might be up there very short term as a result of running hot, whereas month-to-month you get a more clear of who the consistent winners are.

[Numbr2intheWorld]

you guys should do weekly updates as well as monthly, because some people might be up there very short term as a result of running hot, whereas month-to-month you get a more clear of who the consistent winners are.

We are planning to do this. Full january stats are coming soon as well as week to week.

[wufwugy]

Seeing how much interest is there is obviously a good thing, but the inclusion of more attributes will generate more interests. Personally, I could care fuckall for the rankings system as is, but if I can see the winrates and hands played of all the regs in my game then I will check the site out from time to time at least and possibly a lot. I'm sure many others will feel this way.

I agree, and trust me, your points are well noted. However ISF and Mass are unsure of the legality of posting those stats (as other sites have been removed from the internet for doing so by other sites)

Anyway, keep suggestions coming.

Is this what happened to pokerplayerwinnings? The site's still up, and I was under teh impression that they weren't running stats anymore due to comp/power issues, not legal issues.

Would be nice to know exactly what legal shit went down with other sites.

[IowaSkinsFan]

I emailed pokerstars about this, you are not allowed to post any stats without written permission from the player, and even with that they need extremely solid evidence it is in fact that player. So it's pretty much impossible. This is the biggest loophole we've found.

[euphoricism]

I cant understand how stars can claim legal ownership to those statistics. They dont even generate the stats themselves, how can they possibly claim ownership of someone elses work, without any input from their company?

That would be like the nfl trying to claim ownership of the fact that Tom Brady threw for #x yards on sunday by saying "Only Tom Brady can release that information". No thats not true. Anyone WATCHING tom brady has that information too.

I think its bullshit, but I understand you don't have the money to fight it.

[will641]

I emailed pokerstars about this, you are not allowed to post any stats without written permission from the player, and even with that they need extremely solid evidence it is in fact that player. So it's pretty much impossible. This is the biggest loophole we've found.

why dont you ask them to provide some sort of evidence that proves it to be unlawful? because if you simply ask them if its okay of course they are going to say no. this could be wrong, but my thinking is unless it is against the law then they can't have your website taken down. and i doubt they could take any action as far as banning anyone from playing there, because how do they know its you? and you could always so no thats a different danny steinberg. that to me seems like it would be your biggest concern. is this wrong?

[euphoricism]

this could be wrong, but my thinking is unless it is against the law then they can't have your website taken down.

Thats not true. Someone can *always* sue you into submission.

Dont like a guys shoes? Have a couple million to throw at it? Sue him and make it not worth his time and money to defend his choice of shoes.

[spoonitnow]

this could be wrong, but my thinking is unless it is against the law then they can't have your website taken down.

Thats not true. Someone can *always* sue you into submission.

Dont like a guys shoes? Have a couple million to throw at it? Sue him and make it not worth his time and money to defend his choice of shoes.

I should sue your mom for having you.

[Jack Sawyer]

I emailed pokerstars about this, you are not allowed to post any stats without written permission from the player, and even with that they need extremely solid evidence it is in fact that player. So it's pretty much impossible. This is the biggest loophole we've found.

I was about to ask you guys about this. That info is obviously private, I was struggling to see how you could show how much some dude won just like that

[Numbr2intheWorld]

Hey guys, we just updated to show rankings for the entire month of january. all the seperate weeks of january and the first two weeks of february should be up within the next few days.

Notable FTR players ranked:
Nutsinho #3 2/4 6-max

Renton555 #9 1/2 FR

Spoonitnow #14 1/2 FR

congrats guys!

[Numbr2intheWorld]

I emailed pokerstars about this, you are not allowed to post any stats without written permission from the player, and even with that they need extremely solid evidence it is in fact that player. So it's pretty much impossible. This is the biggest loophole we've found.

why dont you ask them to provide some sort of evidence that proves it to be unlawful? because if you simply ask them if its okay of course they are going to say no. this could be wrong, but my thinking is unless it is against the law then they can't have your website taken down. and i doubt they could take any action as far as banning anyone from playing there, because how do they know its you? and you could always so no thats a different danny steinberg. that to me seems like it would be your biggest concern. is this wrong?

Well thanks for keeping it anonymous lol

[spoonitnow]

Hey guys, we just updated to show rankings for the entire month of january. all the seperate weeks of january and the first two weeks of february should be up within the next few days.

Notable FTR players ranked:
Nutsinho #3 2/4 6-max

Renton555 #9 1/2 FR

Spoonitnow #14 1/2 FR

congrats guys!

Mother-fuckin ballin.

[gabe]

no hu games are mined?

[Numbr2intheWorld]

no hu games are mined?

We decided against it because we thought HU players might get pissed (kill their action?).

I'm guessing you'd be pretty high up there though huh?

[gabe]

nah

[givememyleg]

don't kill his action!

[JL]

Hey guys, we just updated to show rankings for the entire month of january. all the seperate weeks of january and the first two weeks of february should be up within the next few days.

Notable FTR players ranked:
Nutsinho #3 2/4 6-max

Renton555 #9 1/2 FR

Spoonitnow #14 1/2 FR

congrats guys!

Renton is also #10 2/4 FR.

GJ guys.

[wesrman]

Sweet site guys.
Nice to see some FTR guys up there.
Congrats...

[bode]

setzy is #3 on 2/4 full ring. big congrats.

[wufwugy]

lol Toluschev is #3.

[BankItDrew]

what are the rankings based on? total profit? winrate over X amount of hands?

[wufwugy]

what are the rankings based on? total profit? winrate over X amount of hands?

Skill.

As is obvious with Toluschev.

[wufwugy]

Oooooh just had an epiphany.

How bout you guys do something like have a list of players with highest winrates for each month over like 20k hands or something. You wouldn't need to display any stats to just say who's making the most per hand.

As is, really the only players we will see are those going for SNE, and half of them suck.

[will641]

setzy is #3 on 2/4 full ring. big congrats.

where does it say this?

[Numbr2intheWorld]

Oooooh just had an epiphany.

How bout you guys do something like have a list of players with highest winrates for each month over like 20k hands or something. You wouldn't need to display any stats to just say who's making the most per hand.

As is, really the only players we will see are those going for SNE, and half of them suck.

yeah, this is something we're going to consider when we have enough hands.

[bode]

setzy is #3 on 2/4 full ring. big congrats.

where does it say this?

$2/$4 Full Ring
1. Mustanggino
2 2. Gl79
3. SetzerMason

[spoonitnow]

setzy is #3 on 2/4 full ring. big congrats.

where does it say this?

$2/$4 Full Ring
1. Mustanggino
2 2. Gl79
3. SetzerMason <---- Here obviously, bode

=P

[Numbr2intheWorld]

setzy is #3 on 2/4 full ring. big congrats.

where does it say this?

$2/$4 Full Ring
1. Mustanggino
2 2. Gl79
3. SetzerMason <---- Here obviously, bode

=P

sorry setzy i don't know how i didn't see that!

[will641]

okay nevermind. for a while the site was just the same, now it is updated.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Hopefully we get everything moving more in the next week or two and the site will be a lot cooler.

[flomo]

with all that data it must real easy to find fish

[EzDuzIt]

so this site is only for stars?

[spoonitnow]

so this site is only for stars?

Did you even read the thread?

[EzDuzIt]

so this site is only for stars?

Did you even read the thread?

not most of it. you could just answer instead of being gay.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Yes, only for Stars. Full Tilt will be added in their near future.

Our site is still very much under production. It shouldn't have even been leaked really (lol i forgive you)

[meeloche]

If either max or danny could pm me a fish list for 100nl that would be great, thanks.

[spoonitnow]

so this site is only for stars?

Did you even read the thread?

not most of it. you could just answer instead of being gay.

You could just read instead of being a fucktard.

[EzDuzIt]

lol wow you are a fucking douchebag spoon. i just ask a question instead of reading a whole fuckin thread then you make some douche reply and dont answer and now you come back with this. way to go douche.

[flomo]

reading anything in commune is -EV

[IowaSkinsFan]

My list for top 400nl regs:
1. heybude
2. heybude
3. heybude
4. heybude
5. redgrape

[wufwugy]

Shut the fuck up flomo

[euphoricism]

lol wow you are a fucking douchebag spoon. i just ask a question instead of reading a whole fuckin thread then you make some douche reply and dont answer and now you come back with this. way to go douche.

You also could have also read the Frequently Asked Questions on the rankings page.

[spoonitnow]

lol wow you are a fucking douchebag spoon. i just ask a question instead of reading a whole fuckin thread then you make some douche reply and dont answer and now you come back with this. way to go douche.

You could just read instead of being a fucktard.

[jyms]

lol wow you are a fucking douchebag spoon. i just ask a question instead of reading a whole fuckin thread then you make some douche reply and dont answer and now you come back with this. way to go douche.

It's not anyones job to bring you up to date. Is your life so much more important than everyone else's that you can't take 5 minutes to read the thread? I don't want to start a flame war but seriously, asking something that is within the first 10 posts of a thread is a little unnecessary considering it would have taken less time to read it than post the question. Maybe we need a new way to answer these type of questions to avoid this type of problem.