My breakfast is often a microwave pizza.
09-17-2013 10:12 PM
#11401
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My breakfast is often a microwave pizza. | |
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09-17-2013 10:32 PM
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09-17-2013 10:40 PM
#11403
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we've got ducks that just started laying eggs, and they're even more flavorful than our chicken eggs, and the yolk is tough as fuck. Like it's so thick that when you puncture it raw in the pan, it doesn't leak, almost like poking into the yolk of a near-overdone fried egg. | |
09-18-2013 03:29 AM
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ya buying local is far more important imo than buying organic. part of me actually wants to start from scratch as a farmer. | |
09-18-2013 03:54 AM
#11405
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Part of me wants to start from scratch as a porn producer. | |
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09-18-2013 07:47 AM
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09-18-2013 02:37 PM
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france has banned child beauty pagents. | |
09-18-2013 02:54 PM
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France age of consent: 15. Banned beauty pageants |
09-18-2013 03:21 PM
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ya those beauty pageants are really creepy, i would be all for getting rid of them. the emotional damage done to the kids must be fairly noticeable. | |
09-18-2013 09:51 PM
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http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor...share_blogpost <-- article about why blurred lines is nbd | |
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09-18-2013 10:34 PM
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re: femist's overreaction to blurred lines. Yeah, I just think it's a knee jerk reaction from some respected members of the community, and then it's a domino effect when respect manages to turn off people's capacity for critical thinking. The problem is, not only does this delegitimize legitimate past, present, and future gripes, but it also emboldens the actual rape culture. If the masses are like "lol, this song is totally not what you're saying it is!" and keep rocking out to it, the actual rape culture-- their ideas about sexual relations, sexuality, etc are going to be propped up since everything has to be a dichotomy. | |
09-18-2013 11:00 PM
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^^ yep |
09-18-2013 11:22 PM
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if there's an official GoT thread with spoilers why isn't there a breaking bad thread? I mean we're pretty much too late now, but srs can u believe that last episode? FAN <- SHIT | |
09-18-2013 11:34 PM
#11414
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goat show is goat |
09-19-2013 01:03 AM
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I think you're off here. VG is off here, and Anna Gunn is most certainly off here with her poorly conceived, supported, and executed op-ed on the issue. There was very good reason for Psqquilar hate. Some of it was overboard, and some of it was due to misogynists hating all female characters. However, calling everyone who disliked the personality represented by the character a misogynist is lolaughable. If there was widespread hatred for Omar, I'd agree with charges of homophobia, because despite the character's flaws, he is very charismatic, has an endearing side, stands by his code of ethics, and is very easy to root for. You absolutely cannot say the same for how Sky-Whore is written. | |
09-19-2013 01:10 AM
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Al Capone is such a great speaker. And makes even better points |
09-19-2013 01:53 AM
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I haven't been that blown away by the misogyny of some who watch Breaking Bad because an inherent trait of misogyny is not seeing it when it arises. That aside, the amount of hatred Skyler has gotten is unreal. Virtually nothing she has done is different than the kinds of things Jesse has done, yet her character is treated with disdain where Jesse is praised. All the characters have reasonable behavior within the scope of the show and real life, but the amount of hate Skyler gets for her behavior seems tenfold that of every other character combined. |
Last edited by wufwugy; 09-19-2013 at 01:55 AM. | |
09-19-2013 08:59 AM
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I would be surprised to find that those that think Sopranos is top have even watched the others. I'm thinking BB over the wire myself but the ending episodes can make or break this whole series as far as #1 or #4 goes. GoT I can't comment on, becasue I won't start that show until BB is over. BWE is something I actually haven't figured out when to watch either | |
09-19-2013 09:23 AM
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does anyone watch eastbound and down? I just started it from the beginning after loling my ass off at a random ep earlier this year. | |
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09-19-2013 10:02 AM
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Man when does GoT start again? It was seriously the only TV series I could get really passionate about in the last few years. | |
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09-19-2013 11:15 AM
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I haven't watched the Wire but have watched BB and Sopranos. For me, Sopranos is still #1 and BB is #2. And I'm not saying Sopranos is my favorite by a mile, but it's a clear victory in my book. I find the character of Tony Soprano way more interesting than WW. I also find in BB that too often people's rational in the show annoy the hell out of me. And not in the way where I wish they would think what I want them to think so I'm mad. It just seems like they're given a certain rationale to justify the show's direction and they don't come by it naturally enough. | |
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09-19-2013 11:23 AM
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i'm currently on season 5 of the sopranos, first time watching it. i think it's difficult to compare them because bb is one tight story, one trajectory, one path. sopranos.. i mean yes there is an overarching storyline, but the point of watching it is not simply to see how the plot unfolds - it's not super riveting in that aspect (i mean sometimes it is, but on the whole it's not) - but to immerse yourself into the life of these mobsters, particularly tony's, and experience that blend of the relatable and the horrifying. | |
Last edited by aubreymcfate; 09-19-2013 at 11:31 AM.
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09-19-2013 11:31 AM
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No love for "Six Feet Under"? IMO it's way better than Sopranos. Sopranos meandered too much, it felt too unfocused to me. | |
09-19-2013 11:33 AM
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^^ i know wug likes it. and my aforementioned best friend loves it. it's on my list of things to watch, for sure. | |
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09-19-2013 12:08 PM
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tv show thread is down the hall. | |
09-19-2013 01:10 PM
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ur mom is down the hall |
09-19-2013 02:35 PM
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09-19-2013 02:37 PM
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09-19-2013 02:38 PM
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Has anyone watched twin peaks? It still rated really high on imdb in spite of being super old. I remember people watching it when I was a little kid and it was quite a big deal then. I've toyed with the idea of watching it but I keep finding other things that bump it down the list. Watching Band of Brothers now, only 2 episodes in but it's fantastic stuff. | |
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09-19-2013 02:41 PM
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BoB is amazing. Pretty sure Twin Peaks is the only top tier show (non-anime) I've not watched. I'm positive it's really good, but my haterade is in such a way that I'll have to be in a certain mood to watch it, and I just haven't been for a while, so keep putting it off. Put Mad Men off for similar reasons for like two years, but finally got around to it |
09-19-2013 02:46 PM
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I've been the same with mad men, BWE and GoT. I watched the first episodes of each of them but just couldn't get interested in any of them. I'm sure they're good, but I think I tried each of them after watching something else great, like after finishing The Wire and Sopranos, and at that point very little could keep my attention. | |
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09-19-2013 03:17 PM
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i think you're doing yourself a disservice by watching the first episode of something and deciding you're not interested, especially shows like got and bwe. think of them as novels. they're long, intricate stories. you need to get acquainted with the characters and premise and it shouldn't be rushed. i'm not sure what the standard numbers of eps you should watch to give a show a chance should be (unless it's like, inexcusably bad from the get go). maybe five? | |
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09-19-2013 03:29 PM
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With so much to do in this life, I'm not gonna try to like a TV show. Another time in another mood I may give each another go, but I need to be in the right mood for a show, I can't just watch it because it's good, if that makes any sense at all. | |
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09-19-2013 03:33 PM
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Actually, that's a lie. I had to try and like the wire. And I'm sure glad I made the effort. | |
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09-19-2013 03:37 PM
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i had to with Mad Men too and i'm so glad i did. | |
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09-19-2013 03:43 PM
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09-19-2013 03:44 PM
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09-19-2013 03:44 PM
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09-19-2013 03:58 PM
#11439
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Dude, you're just talking now. Seriously. Nothing she has done is different than Jesse? Seriously? I just don't even know what to say to shit like this. You're delusional if you think this passes for anything more than a laughable glob of words. | |
09-19-2013 04:09 PM
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allllllllllllllllll that being said about Sky-Whore, I'm glad she is in the show. Every character doesn't have to be immediately likable. She plays a roll in the show that has made it better. The show wouldn't be what it is if it weren't for her. Her character plays a central roll in establishing who Walter White is. I hate her(Skylar, not Anna Gunn, ldo) as a person, but value her role as a character. | |
09-19-2013 04:12 PM
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Unless the show's elements are noticeably poor, the entire first season must be watched before judging it. All the best serial shows start slow. Wire is sort of an exception, and that's a testament to how superbly written it is. |
09-19-2013 04:13 PM
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09-19-2013 04:17 PM
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09-19-2013 04:18 PM
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Orange is the New Black: Most gratuitous use of boobies in a non-sexual (or at least non-arousing to me) context ever. | |
09-19-2013 04:23 PM
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Says the man who has yet to watch The Wire. | |
09-19-2013 04:29 PM
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I don't have much more to say on the issue. The video Aubrey posted sums it up. Most of the distaste for Skyler is for legit reasons, but not all of it, and it has an over the top-ness about it exactly like in that video. Walt and Jesse are treated with respect, Skyler is not. Walt and Jesse do something bad and it's understandable, Skyler does something bad and she's a bitch. |
09-19-2013 05:24 PM
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Skyler gets praise when she does bad things! She gets hate when she opposes what people signed up to watch. We know there will be killing, drug dealing, etc. We signed up for that. The best moments for all the characters are when they break bad. When she sends the goons to force Ted's silence, people loved it, when she went herself to intimidate him while he sat in a neck brace, people loved it. | |
Last edited by boost; 09-19-2013 at 05:26 PM. | |
09-19-2013 06:07 PM
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That doesn't counter my point. When the male characters do things the audience doesn't like, they're not treated with such vitriol as is the typical response to the females. Skyler is just a better example of this than some others. Everything you said applies to Hank. He's trying to stop all the bad stuff that best way he knows how, and nobody has an unkind thing to say about him. But the moment Skyler tries to protect herself or her family from bad stuff, she's ridiculed. People say it's because of "how" she does it, but that's nonsense. Male characters and characters partaking in masculine responses to things get away with the same sort of behavior all the time, but beware whenever a woman does it in a feminine way. She's just getting in the way |
09-19-2013 07:45 PM
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Hank is the protagonist of his own story. | |
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09-19-2013 07:49 PM
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i really don't want to become a part of this debate but i have to step in and say that's not what he was doing... at all. and i'm surprised someone as smart as you twisted his words that way. non-traditional female characters like Arya are great, and we need characters like that, but we also shouldn't be slamming femininity, what people call "girly girl," in the process. that's what he was trying to say. he never once implied that there's anything inherently wrong with masculine female characters. | |
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09-19-2013 08:07 PM
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Fine. | |
09-19-2013 08:11 PM
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Oh and aubrey, please feel free, from a woman's perspective, to explain to me Skylar's feminine ways of dealing with adversity. Because that's what wuf called it, and still, all I see are negative feminine stereotypes, spazzing out, reactionary, acting from spite, vindictive, etc. We really don't even see her being very motherly, imo. | |
09-19-2013 08:35 PM
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And Skyler is just an adjunct. All the women in BB are. Just like all the women in BWE, and Wire, and Sopranos. In BB, it's Walt vs Gus or Walt vs Hank or Walt vs Jesse; it's never Walt vs Skyler, she's just a bitch. Marie isn't a bitch because she sticks by Hank. Plus she's hot, and hot women can afford some room. |
09-19-2013 08:47 PM
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I love this |
Last edited by wufwugy; 09-19-2013 at 09:02 PM. | |
09-19-2013 09:01 PM
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I'll need a bit with is, especially since I'm heading out in a bit, but just one thing I'd like to point out... Why bother critiquing the fact that Skyler isn't "being very motherly"? Women are always more harshly criticized for their parenting than fathers, both in shows and IRL. If men prioritize anything above their children, well that's natural because obviously men are worldly creatures. But once a woman has kids, her entire value as a person or character is judged by that alone? That's not to say we should excuse any bad parenting from mothers or fathers, not at all, but the double standard is incredibly frustrating. People tend to be way more sympathetic to fathers. | |
Last edited by aubreymcfate; 09-19-2013 at 09:06 PM.
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09-19-2013 09:35 PM
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09-19-2013 09:47 PM
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09-19-2013 09:53 PM
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Re Captain Save a Hoe: I thought you would, I hoped you would, this conversation needed a bit of levity. | |
09-19-2013 09:59 PM
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So basically all you're saying is you think she's a poorly written character. Which contradicts one of your earlier posts about how you're glad she's in the show and is necessary or some shit. (maybe I'm wrong about this though - correct me if I am obv, I'm getting ready and don't have the time) | |
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09-19-2013 10:04 PM
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Don't do it, Moe! |
09-19-2013 10:06 PM
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I kinda skipped the Mad Men thing when aubrey wrote it (lol, cuz I oppress women... with my fist!), because I haven't watched the show yet, but skimmed the snippet in wuf's quote. I do think that there are some interesting double standards that apply exclusively to this issue. One of them is custody. Esp in the context of back then, but not much has changed now-- if a relationship ends and there are kids, the courts pretty much auto give custody to the woman. I don't hear much from the gender equality camp about this. | |
09-19-2013 10:09 PM
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09-20-2013 09:27 AM
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Yes, this is a function of the pervasive idea that women are always the caretakers, always the ones with that responsibility. Sexism doesn't affect just women, men get the shit end of it too because of generalities like this. Feminists actually talk about these issues all the time, and absolutely do acknowledge how misogyny affects men. It's funny how those voices seem to be drowned out for some reason - or maybe you guys just aren't paying close enough attention? I don't know. | |
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09-20-2013 02:02 PM
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yeah, for sure, I know that dialogue is happening, but I feel like more often than not doesn't reach the mainstream gender discussion. I really don't mean to respond to criticism of myself (or my gender) by returning criticism. I think it's important to express your grievances, but at the same time always responding with "well, yeah, but you do this isn't particularly constructive, especially coming from the dominant side. I am curious though what you think about these double standards. Clearly they are there, and I think these double standards are more pervasive and damaging than say "reverse racism" (which is poorly termed, since "racism" by a dominated group is something other than racism), but I'm completely open to that being my male bias. | |
09-20-2013 02:13 PM
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09-22-2013 09:40 PM
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The netherlands has the hottest girls, confirmed! | |
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09-23-2013 10:03 AM
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they left USA#1 off, so i guess netherlands can be 2nd best. | |
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09-23-2013 10:21 AM
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ok OBVIOUSLY mediterraneans and middle easterners are superior, lets all just relax with our aryan fetishez pls | |
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09-23-2013 10:34 AM
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Would pee in all the butts. | |
09-23-2013 10:49 AM
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Isn't it normal to like what you see the most? I had a family gathering from my father's side for my parents' 40th marriage anniversary last saturday. Almost everyone came, think 100+ people including tons of kids (me and my sister and a rare cousin or niece here or there were the only ones without kids wtf). | |
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09-23-2013 11:07 AM
#11471
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oh it's totally normal lol. i'm just playing. | |
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09-23-2013 11:38 AM
#11472
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It will take about 2 months if you request the kit now and send it and before it is processed and you get the results. But you should totally share them if you get them! You can find strange things, this other friend of mine told me he had 2% indonesian in his genes (he looks perfectly "belgian"). I wonder what kinds of outlandish genes I might have. My eyes are some kind of grey-green-blue, no-one has been able to really put a color on it yet. The rest about me is pretty average joe from around the block I think. | |
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09-23-2013 11:47 AM
#11473
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Oh it is 23andme.com without the 1. | |
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09-23-2013 12:14 PM
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strangely enough the greek doesn't look like the signature greek woman to me. | |
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09-23-2013 12:23 PM
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Is that stuff really legit? I remember a few years ago, there was a similar (maybe the same?) company that was doing DNA based genealogy, but they were looking at like a tiny, tiny fraction of your DNA and making a statistical generalization. | |