Randomness thread, part two.

[flomo]

i feel this thread bottlenecking

[boost]

Im not even a big fighting game fan, but this is fucking awesome..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TXPFgRsVUE

[will641]

death is neutral ev. you can expect nothing good and nothing bad. if you are dealt 87o utg and decide to play it, you are making a negative ev decision. folding is neutral, thus the winningest play. therefore, if your life is representative of 87o utg, death seems to be the optimal route. my friends, i have been dealt 87o utg. maybe 9To on a good day.

[a500lbgorilla]

So you're dying? Also, I could probably name a few people who expect death to lead to a +EV heaven or +EV harem of virgins.

Also, comments on the State of the Union?

[boost]

death is neutral ev. you can expect nothing good and nothing bad. if you are dealt 87o utg and decide to play it, you are making a negative ev decision. folding is neutral, thus the winningest play. therefore, if your life is representative of 87o utg, death seems to be the optimal route. my friends, i have been dealt 87o utg. maybe 9To on a good day.

plz dont let a poker analogy be your suicide note..

[boost]

Also, comments on the State of the Union?

When it comes to politics, Ive gotten to the point of "who the fuck cares?" Its all a bunch of smoke being blown up our collective asses. Its a big circus.

Ive just come to the point where I cant see a greater good in this world. On the small scale I see tons of positive things.. you know.. in everyday life. But when it comes to the big picture, I no longer see any chance of a positive outcome.

[wufwugy]

So you're dying? Also, I could probably name a few people who expect death to lead to a +EV heaven or +EV harem of virgins.

Also, comments on the State of the Union?

Didn't watch it, I might later tonight, but I have watched a ton of Obama speeches in the past

They're always political and don't necessarily express his agenda. Also, his agenda often doesn't matter. One example is that Obama cannot fight the military-industrial-congressional complex* especially during a time of recession. He can say all he wants about pulling out of war, but that shit just isn't gonna happen.

I'm not sure what his real agenda is. It appears that he's just naturally a nice guy, is trying to keep enough of the corporate money on his side so he can win reelection, and doesn't want to get down and dirty due to the havoc that could create. Most liberals are displeased with Obama because they want another Carter, except they don't realize that if he would indeed be another Carter and would effectively get nowhere and possibly allow the country to get even more soured

Or it is possible that he's about as corrupt as they come, and is playing this game so he can get his. I doubt that, but it's possible. Either way, speeches don't tell you shit. Just follow the money, the logic, and the history; that's what tells truth.

*I add congressional because according to Eisenhower's daughter, that was the original phrase of his speech

[BooG690]

Rush on Obama's speech last night:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TapgN2WYtcQ

[Lukie]

all this talk of death and suffering is making me a little depressed.

i just ate a big plate of chicken creole and i'm going to play volleyball in an hour or so. i'm leaving for NYC tomorrow to see my gf and it's going to be a weekend full of boozing, eating, sight-seeing, and sexing. i can't wait.

unlike wufwugy, i'm looking forward to science discovering anti-aging so i can live forever. something will probably get screwed up along the way but oh well, i'm still holding out hope.

/random positiveness

[a500lbgorilla]

Rush on Obama's speech last night:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TapgN2WYtcQ

He is good. Whatever you want to say of what Rush is trying to do, he does it well.

[BooG690]

Rush on Obama's speech last night:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TapgN2WYtcQ

He is good. Whatever you want to say of what Rush is trying to do, he does it well.

Yeah. This is why I hate him so much...so many people follow this guy.

[wufwugy]

Agelessness is gonna be pretty fricken sweet

I've seen one estimate that predicts it in some form in only a decade, and Ray Kurzweil thinks that medical technology is improving so quickly we're currently able to extend lives longer than those lives age. So basically if you can just keep from dying today, technology exists to extend your life slightly longer than a day, until eventually actual anti-aging is discovered. Kurzweil has been really right about some things, but also has some weird ideas

I remember watching a doc about a year ago that claimed that anti-aging medicine is to a point where they've successfully injected rodents with a formula that apparently reorganized/regenerated the tissue from old into young

[wufwugy]

wtffffffffffffff is this

[Lukie]

Agelessness is gonna be pretty fricken sweet

I've seen one estimate that predicts it in some form in only a decade, and Ray Kurzweil thinks that medical technology is improving so quickly we're currently able to extend lives longer than those lives age. So basically if you can just keep from dying today, technology exists to extend your life slightly longer than a day, until eventually actual anti-aging is discovered. Kurzweil has been really right about some things, but also has some weird ideas

I remember watching a doc about a year ago that claimed that anti-aging medicine is to a point where they've successfully injected rodents with a formula that apparently reorganized/regenerated the tissue from old into young

Kurzweil is very good. Another guy I like as a futurist is Michio Kaku. He's not into anti-aging that I'm aware of but he has a realy strong understanding beyond concepts that can/will drive future technologies. There are going to be some pretty remarkable technologies in the future and along the same line you're getting at, they are going to come a lot sooner than people realize.

[boost]

wtffffffffffffff is this

Ive seen the full video of this.. its really creepy and does not offer any explanation as to why this man is doing this to this little boy. On top of that the crowd is cheering the whole time..

[BooG690]

Link to full video, ldo

[boost]

here you go.

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/323187/

[boost]

so much awesome in this link..

http://www.urlesque.com/2010/01/28/fresh-prince-prankster-calls-christian-tv/?icid=main|aim|dl5|link3|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.urlesque .com%2F2010%2F01%2F28%2Ffresh-prince-prankster-calls-christian-tv%2F

[BooG690]

When are we going to be able to crack jokes about Haiti? What's taking so long?

[boost]

When are we going to be able to crack jokes about Haiti? What's taking so long?

rich predominantly white nation has a catastrophic attack on a symbol of its wealth: free reign for memes as soon as the dust cloud settles.

poor minority 3rd world country is hit by a massive natural disaster that more or less cripples its almost non existent infrastructure: give it some time. After all the holocaust is just coming into the funny zone after the better part of a century has past.

[flomo]

How about J D salinger jokes? can we start those yet?

[bigred]

How about J D salinger jokes? can we start those yet?

Catcher in the Rye sucked almost as many balls as you. Thatsa lotta balls

[Warpe]

I love Max

http://trueslant.com/matttaibbi/2010...#post_comments

[flomo]

i suck many balls, you suck many balls

but i suck the biggest balls of them all

[flomo]

i suck many balls, you suck many balls

but i suck the biggest balls of them all

[bode]

Also, day 2 of not smoking ftw. I feel pretty positive right now.

day 15 for me and it feels awesome.

You're both going back to smoking real soon...guaranteed.

6 weeks tomorrow. ship it.

[Luco]

Also, day 2 of not smoking ftw. I feel pretty positive right now.

day 15 for me and it feels awesome.

You're both going back to smoking real soon...guaranteed.

6 weeks tomorrow. ship it.

4 weeks today.

[BooG690]

Also, day 2 of not smoking ftw. I feel pretty positive right now.

day 15 for me and it feels awesome.

You're both going back to smoking real soon...guaranteed.

6 weeks tomorrow. ship it.

4 weeks today.

I feel that first cigarette aaaaaannnyyyy time now.

[bode]

Also, day 2 of not smoking ftw. I feel pretty positive right now.

day 15 for me and it feels awesome.

You're both going back to smoking real soon...guaranteed.

6 weeks tomorrow. ship it.

4 weeks today.

I feel that first cigarette aaaaaannnyyyy time now.

[bikes]

douchebag itt

[a500lbgorilla]

douchebag itt

I found one!

douchebag itt

[Chelle]

ciggs are evil little things that take over your life!111111!!!!!!!

[bigspenda73]

womenz are evil little things that take over your life!111111!!!!!!!

[givememyleg]

maybe the best fyp ever?

[BooG690]

^ Happily married?

[givememyleg]

haha, yes

[a500lbgorilla]

^Why'd you hesitate? Ruh roh...

[a500lbgorilla]

Why don't you paint "NASCAR SUCKS" "I LOVE MAN-LOVE" "VOTE FOR HILARY CLINTON" on your cars and drive through Alabama.

http://jinxiboo.squarespace.com/blog...-deep-sou.html

[Ash256]

^^ Top Gear road trips/races are fucking awesome.. you guys ought to check out the Bolivia, Japan and North Pole road trips, esp. in 720p.. they're just amazing

[boost]

I think vietnam on the motorcycles was by far the best..

[Warpe]

I am such a geek

http://www.syfy.com/caprica/

[BooG690]

http://www.earthlings.com/

Viewer discretion is advised.

[Warpe]

^^^ I can't say I'm glad I watched that but I forced myself to.

[givememyleg]

damn

[UG]

random: I hate when I poop and the water splashes back up at me

wtf

[a500lbgorilla]

^^^ I can't say I'm glad I watched that but I forced myself to.

They skinned a dog (??) alive; it was still blinking and skin-less. Why the hell wouldn't you just put it out?

[BooG690]

^^^ I can't say I'm glad I watched that but I forced myself to.

They skinned a dog (??) alive; it was still blinking and skin-less. Why the hell wouldn't you just put it out?

That was, without a doubt, the most disturbing part.

[boost]

wtf are you guys watching... srsly, that shit sounds gross.

[a500lbgorilla]

Food Inc. 2: Animal Sacrifices to their Lord King Man.

Change of subject, I also hate back-splash from dropping a log.

[bode]

^^^ I can't say I'm glad I watched that but I forced myself to.

They skinned a dog (??) alive; it was still blinking and skin-less. Why the hell wouldn't you just put it out?

That was, without a doubt, the most disturbing part.

pretty sure that was a fox. and the most disturbing part BY FAR was when the cow was like squeezed or something in that machine and it came out the other end alive. wft.

[wufwugy]

The reason I have not joined in any movement against the mistreatment of animals is because 100% of those involved spend the majority of their time protesting based in ignorance.

What I mean is that if these people actual spent some time in the wild or researching nature, actually spent some time using their cerebral brain instead of primitive brain, or even learning things about genetics, then they would realize that so much of this crap is not mistreatment outside of the norm. Sure, crushing a cow and it dying a slow death, writhing in agony, looks pretty gruesome, but don't tell me that death by python isn't somehow less torturous and painful.

The problems with mistreating animals have to do with chronic conditions, not acute conditions. 99% of wild animals suffer absolutely horrible deaths. Real mistreatment would probably be on the order of chicken farms like the one in Napolean Dynamite, not the actual process of maiming and killing the chicken. Some of those killings are pretty humane when compared to the wild.

Maybe somebody should tell PETA that wild dogs don't even kill their prey before they start eating it. If animal rights activists want the backing of actual intelligent people, they need to stop pretending like actions that hold no significance over what happens in the wild are wrong

[Ash256]

The reason I have not joined in any movement against the mistreatment of animals is because 100% of those involved spend the majority of their time protesting based in ignorance.

What I mean is that if these people actual spent some time in the wild or researching nature, actually spent some time using their cerebral brain instead of primitive brain, or even learning things about genetics, then they would realize that so much of this crap is not mistreatment outside of the norm. Sure, crushing a cow and it dying a slow death, writhing in agony, looks pretty gruesome, but don't tell me that death by python isn't somehow less torturous and painful.

The problems with mistreating animals have to do with chronic conditions, not acute conditions. 99% of wild animals suffer absolutely horrible deaths. Real mistreatment would probably be on the order of chicken farms like the one in Napolean Dynamite, not the actual process of maiming and killing the chicken. Some of those killings are pretty humane when compared to the wild.

Maybe somebody should tell PETA that wild dogs don't even kill their prey before they start eating it. If animal rights activists want the backing of actual intelligent people, they need to stop pretending like actions that hold no significance over what happens in the wild are wrong

K, I'll bite with the most obvious one:

Why should what happens in the wild excuse human cruelty? If I violently raped a woman I'd be known as a fucked up individual and rightly so. Furthermore, I wouldn't be able to cite rape within the animal kingdom as a justification for my crime, because as a human being with empathy and a conscience, I'd be expected to be able to control violent or sexual urges.

Therefore if one can't justify human rape with rape in the animal kingdom, how can one justify animal cruelty?

[Lukie]

[wufwugy]

The reason I have not joined in any movement against the mistreatment of animals is because 100% of those involved spend the majority of their time protesting based in ignorance.

What I mean is that if these people actual spent some time in the wild or researching nature, actually spent some time using their cerebral brain instead of primitive brain, or even learning things about genetics, then they would realize that so much of this crap is not mistreatment outside of the norm. Sure, crushing a cow and it dying a slow death, writhing in agony, looks pretty gruesome, but don't tell me that death by python isn't somehow less torturous and painful.

The problems with mistreating animals have to do with chronic conditions, not acute conditions. 99% of wild animals suffer absolutely horrible deaths. Real mistreatment would probably be on the order of chicken farms like the one in Napolean Dynamite, not the actual process of maiming and killing the chicken. Some of those killings are pretty humane when compared to the wild.

Maybe somebody should tell PETA that wild dogs don't even kill their prey before they start eating it. If animal rights activists want the backing of actual intelligent people, they need to stop pretending like actions that hold no significance over what happens in the wild are wrong

K, I'll bite with the most obvious one:

Why should what happens in the wild excuse human cruelty? If I violently raped a woman I'd be known as a fucked up individual and rightly so. Furthermore, I wouldn't be able to cite rape within the animal kingdom as a justification for my crime, because as a human being with empathy and a conscience, I'd be expected to be able to control violent or sexual urges.

Therefore if one can't justify human rape with rape in the animal kingdom, how can one justify animal cruelty?

There's a big difference between comparing something that happens to animals and something that happens to humans. We're really different in some ways, and this was why I mentioned understanding genetics. Rape in the animal kingdom cannot be compared to human kingdom like this for the simple reasons that it causes tremendous problems for humans, but isn't that big of a problem for animals.

The point I was making is that an animal that is brought into this world has an extremely high likelyhood of being taken out in a very cruel and miserable fashion. It is then silly to fault humans for doing that which is completely natural. It's an illogical double standard that we put against ourselves. Statistical significance in cruelty arises from chronic conditions of cruelty (which humans do create exclusively and I am very much against).

It's like those against animal cruelty are so naive and delusional that they think that humans are not somehow a product of the natural world. Not that long ago, it was quite natural for humans to hunt and kill animals all the time, but I guess when being born into modern civilization, humans delude themselves into thinking that this kind of killing is somehow wrong.

Another problem with the rape analogy is that it brushes over how we treat animals and how we treat other humans. An example is that it is NOT natural for humans to suffer tremendously upon death in a similar way to animals. Our genome has evolved in a much more controlled environment, and we are literally far more sensitive than animals. Killing a human by clawing your way through its guts is likely to be immensely crueler than doing the same to a wildebeest.

There is, however, another sort of problem inasmuch as it doesn't actually matter if something is 'natural' or not. Evolution doesn't select for that. It is possible that prey dying at the hands of predators is unfathomably horrible, but it cannot be evolutionarily selected for. This brings in a whole different realm of problems though, and ultimately creates a state of philosophical paralysis IMO.

The bottom line is that a human killing an animal isn't somehow different than an animal killing an animal (assuming methods and results are similar, which they are). The real cruelty is in creating conditions for the animals which are worse than what they would experience normally. While I do understand that somebody could philosophically still believe that the human killing the animal is wrong, I have no respect for animal rights activists who remain naive and project their own emotions on how reality really works.

If PETA had their way, all the dogs and cats and gophers and everything would live wild and natural lives, but when they suffered at the hands of other animals, PETA would for sure look the other way and just splash some blood on somebody's coat. I am honestly upset that animal rights activists are ruining their agenda by catering to their primitive instincts and focusing on stuff that is irrational because I do think there are real problems of chronic animal suffering at the hands of humans, but they're hidden amongst all the naive silliness

[UG]

fuck yeah I like meat

[a500lbgorilla]

Rare or med-rare?

[Warpe]

wufug, you're FOS.

[UG]

medium rare, I like the pink but don't want a living/breathing animal on my plate. most places don't cook medium rare, though, for health reasons, and that makes me sad.

[BennyLaRue]

medium rare, I like the pink but don't want a living/breathing animal on my plate. most places don't cook medium rare, though, for health reasons, and that makes me sad.

Stop dining at those places.

[bode]

wufug, you're FOS.

+1. i'm about as far away as you can get from being a PETA activist, but give me a break wuf.

[boost]

medium rare, I like the pink but don't want a living/breathing animal on my plate. most places don't cook medium rare, though, for health reasons, and that makes me sad.

Stop dining at those places.

ya, srsly, wtf? I have never eaten anywhere that wont serve medium rare. But then again, if a place didnt want to serve medium rare, then I wouldnt want to eat a medium rare steak from their kitchen, ducy?

Wuf, while logic leads me to completely agree with you, I still find some objection. Im not going to cry out and turn into a vegan cuz of one video of a mishap in a meat processing factory. But I do think we should strive to do the killings in the most (reasonably) humane way. Hell, doing it humanely is probably more efficient anyways.

Where I completley agree with you is that the real problem is how the animals are treated when they are making weight or on the way to slaughter. Animals packed into tiny pens forced to live in their own excrement, its not only inhumane and a worse condition than the wild, but its also is bad for the people consuming the meat as these animals are more likely to be sickly and diseased. And then theres physical abuse... workers punting chickens, excessively prodding cows, etc etc.

[Warpe]

Thinking of slitting off this topic into it's own thread. Food for thought:

http://www.mc.maricopa.edu/~yount/text/engel.pdf

http://www.uta.edu/philosophy/facult...%282000%29.pdf

[wufwugy]

medium rare, I like the pink but don't want a living/breathing animal on my plate. most places don't cook medium rare, though, for health reasons, and that makes me sad.

Stop dining at those places.

ya, srsly, wtf? I have never eaten anywhere that wont serve medium rare. But then again, if a place didnt want to serve medium rare, then I wouldnt want to eat a medium rare steak from their kitchen, ducy?

Wuf, while logic leads me to completely agree with you, I still find some objection. Im not going to cry out and turn into a vegan cuz of one video of a mishap in a meat processing factory. But I do think we should strive to do the killings in the most (reasonably) humane way. Hell, doing it humanely is probably more efficient anyways.

Where I completley agree with you is that the real problem is how the animals are treated when they are making weight or on the way to slaughter. Animals packed into tiny pens forced to live in their own excrement, its not only inhumane and a worse condition than the wild, but its also is bad for the people consuming the meat as these animals are more likely to be sickly and diseased. And then theres physical abuse... workers punting chickens, excessively prodding cows, etc etc.

Yeah I don't disagree at all. It's a frustrating topic though since it's easy to accidentally conflate issues or let intuition/emotions take over.

There is one entirely different way to look at it than I did. That way involves human emotion. A good example can be found in the difference between killing an unknown animal for food vs killing your pet dog for food. From a cold and statistical perspective, there is little to no difference, but from an emotional perspective, there can be tremendous difference. This kind of emotion behind killing can very much carry over into slaughtering practices or slaughtering itself

[a500lbgorilla]

Anyone ever write an article on the immorality of eating oranges? Because I consider fruit to be the same as fish.

[gabe]

staying in a beach house in australia with durrr, ziigmund and a couple other buddies... zig has 4 tattoos, 3 of which he lost in bets with his friends and the 4th is his ex girlfriend's name

[kmind]

fucking awesome

[UG]

lol, gabe, that's pretty sick

when are you going to be on TV like durrrrrrrrr?

[boost]

staying in a beach house in australia with durrr, ziigmund and a couple other buddies... zig has 4 tattoos, 3 of which he lost in bets with his friends and the 4th is his ex girlfriend's name

this is why this thread is awesome.

[flomo]

sounds like livin

[a500lbgorilla]

sounds like livin

def, I'm whatever the color of jealousy is with jealousy.

Also, quick chuckle. Sarah Palin reads notes off her hand during her Q&A yesterday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhY7uvoI9Oo

[speedcake]

wufug, you're FOS.

[UG]

omg I ate so much tonight at my SB party, way too many pigs in a blanket thingies

[a500lbgorilla]

omg I ate so much tonight at my SB party, way too many pigs in a blanket thingies

I made these: http://www.foodandwine.com/recipes/s...-chicken-wings

I got the recipe from 2+2 and they were a huge hit. We had parm cheese chicken wings and home-made honey bbq, they were all amazing.

[bigred]

My roommate is a pretty awesome cook so he made bbq pulled chicken sandwiches, some extremely delicious mac n cheese platter with bread crumbs and bacon, potato skins, spinach dip, and pigs in a blanket. I gained 5 billion pounds.

[bigred]

I was thinking how FTR is a rare occurrence on the interwebs where people are generally mature and respectful to each other. When trying to think of a reason, I came to the conclusion that besides reactive moderating, the legal age restrictions of poker is a major contributor. This led me to think about other age restrictions like drinking and how I've always thought 21 was ridiculous for a drinking age. However, what would it be like if it was 18? If there wasn't a legal age limit? Would bars turn into 4chan filled with cp?