Randomness thread, part two.

[wufwugy]

Apparently, FOS is the new thoughtful analysis

[bode]

omg I ate so much tonight at my SB party, way too many pigs in a blanket thingies

I made these: http://www.foodandwine.com/recipes/s...-chicken-wings

I got the recipe from 2+2 and they were a huge hit. We had parm cheese chicken wings and home-made honey bbq, they were all amazing.

i made these sriracha wings yesterday, and OMG were they amazing.

[Warpe]

Apparently, FOS is the new thoughtful analysis

wuf, I used the term because your argument(s) in the post I was referencing were purely conjecture and not backed with any supporting evidence.

[speedcake]

Apparently, FOS is the new thoughtful analysis

wuf, I used the term because your argument(s) in the post I was referencing were purely conjecture and not backed with any supporting evidence.

And I agreed.

nuff said imo

[wufwugy]

Not sure what you're looking for with regards to evidence. My post wasn't really about what any evidence says, but about not ignoring the obvious and looking at it logically.

I mean, I didn't feel like I should back up the fact that most wild animals die horrible deaths because this fact strikes me as being pretty obvious. What I wanted to point out was the common naivety to this fact

If there's something specific you would like for me to back up with some data, let me know.

[Warpe]

...There's a big difference between comparing something that happens to animals and something that happens to humans. We're really different in some ways, and this was why I mentioned understanding genetics...

Expand. Such as? Our genetic material is for the most part identical.The differences that make us human are actually minor.

...The point I was making is that an animal that is brought into this world has an extremely high likelyhood of being taken out in a very cruel and miserable fashion. It is then silly to fault humans for doing that which is completely natural. It's an illogical double standard that we put against ourselves...

Is it? We breed billions of animals in controlled environments for human consumption. That is hardy "natural." It's biological manufacturing.

...It's like those against animal cruelty are so naive and delusional that they think that humans are not somehow a product of the natural world. Not that long ago, it was quite natural for humans to hunt and kill animals all the time, but I guess when being born into modern civilization, humans delude themselves into thinking that this kind of killing is somehow wrong...

If they're making a moral argument, how is that delusional?

...An example is that it is NOT natural for humans to suffer tremendously upon death in a similar way to animals. Our genome has evolved in a much more controlled environment, and we are literally far more sensitive than animals. Killing a human by clawing your way through its guts is likely to be immensely crueler than doing the same to a wildebeest...

O RLY? This is the most bogus part of your argument. Evidence please.

[a500lbgorilla]

I was thinking how FTR is a rare occurrence on the interwebs where people are generally mature and respectful to each other. When trying to think of a reason, I came to the conclusion that besides reactive moderating, the legal age restrictions of poker is a major contributor. This led me to think about other age restrictions like drinking and how I've always thought 21 was ridiculous for a drinking age. However, what would it be like if it was 18? If there wasn't a legal age limit? Would bars turn into 4chan filled with cp?

I remember turning a blind eye on dwarfman for his age and he eventually exploded. It could possibly be a microcosm of the real-world. Though there do exist lenient drinking laws abroad (18 in G.B.) and I don't hear about those countries burning to the ground thanks to youthful drunken hijinks. On the other side of the coin, alcohol is outlawed in Muslim countries and those guys are effin crazy!

[a500lbgorilla]

omg I ate so much tonight at my SB party, way too many pigs in a blanket thingies

I made these: http://www.foodandwine.com/recipes/s...-chicken-wings

I got the recipe from 2+2 and they were a huge hit. We had parm cheese chicken wings and home-made honey bbq, they were all amazing.

i made these sriracha wings yesterday, and OMG were they amazing.

I'm thinking about swinging out and buying more wings and making another half-batch tonight.

[Warpe]

I think a Poker Cookbook would sell well.

[bode]

omg I ate so much tonight at my SB party, way too many pigs in a blanket thingies

I made these: http://www.foodandwine.com/recipes/s...-chicken-wings

I got the recipe from 2+2 and they were a huge hit. We had parm cheese chicken wings and home-made honey bbq, they were all amazing.

i made these sriracha wings yesterday, and OMG were they amazing.

I'm thinking about swinging out and buying more wings and making another half-batch tonight.

i had a 5lb bag of wings, so i only made a 1/2 batch to start with, but i did 24 sriracha/12 reg hot wings. If i had to do it again, they all would be sriracha. i mean seriously, those may be the best wings i've ever eaten.

[wufwugy]

Expand. Such as? Our genetic material is for the most part identical.The differences that make us human are actually minor.

I'm not sure what the precise label is (probably something along the lines of false comparison or false analogy), but making sure to not falsely compare similar things is important in science. A great example can be found in pharmaceutical experimentation with mice. Many supplement companies love to claim that a new product that works in mice will also work in humans, but the science has shown that this is not reliable. Even though we test with mice partly due to very similar genome, we also know that just because something works with mice doesn't mean it will work with humans.

This was the point I was making. Just because one species is a certain way does not mean that another species is that same way. Genetics is not as straightforward as it may appear on the surface. We share a lot of DNA with lots of stuff that is very different than us

Is it? We breed billions of animals in controlled environments for human consumption. That is hardy "natural." It's biological manufacturing.

I was referring to wild animals, but apparently I forgot to mention that. Your point is valid, and I don't really disagree with it at all. Modern civilization systematically breeds animals for the sole purpose of consumption, and I do think that may be a problem. But that is also a different issue than what I was trying to address

If they're making a moral argument, how is that delusional?

My experience is that moral arguments depend upon cognitive dissonance, represent one of the problems in Loki's Wager, and ultimately ends up in philosophical paralysis. My response to morality is to keep it pragmatic. This is, however, not an issue I care to discuss. When I first become interested in philosophical things, I became very turned off to the entire concept due to the circular dilemma created when not viewing the philosophy through pragmatic lenses.

O RLY? This is the most bogus part of your argument. Evidence please.

This is one part of my post with a lot of speculation mainly because there are a loads of unanswered questions with regards to differences in pain experiences between animals and humans. I also partly went back on it in the next paragraph

The point is that from an evolutionary perspective, high pain threshold and tolerance is likely to not have been selected for with humans as much as with other animals. On top of that, the higher brain functions appear to be very important with regards to experience of pain or emotions. There doesn't appear to be much conclusive data on this stuff other than just knowing that the role is important or showing the responses in other areas. That's all I was pointing out. Nobody knows exactly how animals perceive pain or emotion, but we do know that psychological factors play heavy roles, and that animals do not appear to have many of those factors relative to humans (but they do still have some). Low enough down that chain, and biological organisms will only experience things like fight or flight or a simple nervous reaction, but higher up the chain you'll find organisms that go well beyond that and experience things like crippling fear and despair or very sensitive and acute nervous reactions.

This isn't really a different topic than evaluating the differences of consciousness of animals and humans, but even cutting edge science hasn't gotten that far on that topic. Conclusive peer-review research on this subject is gonna be few and far between.

[a500lbgorilla]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8E7wg...layer_embedded

Apparently 25% of the world's imprisoned population is in the U.S.

What. The. Fuck?

[wufwugy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8E7wgFcCefE&feature=player_embedded

Apparently 25% of the world's imprisoned population is in the U.S.

What. The. Fuck?

Prisons are one of the vertebrae in the backbone of Corporate America

[bigred]

Arguments aren't very random...

[wufwugy]

reads

energy
budget cuts ('budget' x'd out)
tax
lift american spirits

shawah paylin 4 president plzplzplz

[flomo]

all i could think of was handjobs

[Warpe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8E7wgFcCefE&feature=player_embedded

Apparently 25% of the world's imprisoned population is in the U.S.

What. The. Fuck?

This surprises you?

[a500lbgorilla]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8E7wgFcCefE&feature=player_embedded

Apparently 25% of the world's imprisoned population is in the U.S.

What. The. Fuck?

This surprises you?

And disgusts. Seriously, what the fuck?

On the bright side, I have now discovered QI.

[Luco]

WWE has changed the name of this month's Elimination Chamber pay-per-view name back to "No Way Out" for fans in Germany, as the company felt the phrase "Elimination Chamber" could be seen as politically incorrect in the country. (Source: PWInsider.com)

[boost]

there was an earthquake just outside of chicago this morning... wtf?

[Chelle]

the end is commmmminnnnnnnnnggggggggg


ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!111!

[a500lbgorilla]

there was an earthquake just outside of chicago this morning... wtf?

yo momma so fat, when she visits you in Chicago it registers 4.3 on the Richter scale!

[Warpe]

Fox News poll. Do your duty:

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/...arty-movement/

[Warpe]

awesome gabe. we miss u round here.

[jyms]

[a500lbgorilla]

Can finally check seeing durrr topless off my bucket list

[Luco]

Call me a homophobe if you want, but I rofl'd at this one

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/r...r-1895818.html

[Ash256]

Call me a homophobe if you want, but I rofl'd at this one

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/r...r-1895818.html

I'm glad the comments box agrees with me that it's just a bit of banter and not news

[a500lbgorilla]

Joke was funny. Offended homos need to stop being such fags.

[flomo]

rugby is full of gays

[a500lbgorilla]

haha NASA Scientists Plan to Apporach Girl by 2018

http://www.theonion.com/content/vide...nion_rss_daily

[wufwugy]

lol, just a little too awesome

[givememyleg]

haha epic

[bigred]

haha NASA Scientists Plan to Apporach Girl by 2018

http://www.theonion.com/content/vide...nion_rss_daily

So if they scout it out in 2018, when do you think the rest of us will get a chance?

[UG]

bigred my man where the fck you been?

[a500lbgorilla]

http://tv.gawker.com/5470990/

Oh Canada, way to kick off the Olympics.

[boost]

lol canada is so much fail. nail in the coffin imo

[wufwugy]

its that uhc they got up there. it keeps evolution from killing the least fit

[Warpe]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010_swimsuit/bracket/

[givememyleg]

i ended up choosing miller '07

[kiwiMark]

Necova '06

[Warpe]

http://tv.gawker.com/5470990/

Oh Canada, way to kick off the Olympics.

I blame it on Lee Jones

[flomo]

miller 08

had to jerk it afew times to decide a few pivotal matchups

[a500lbgorilla]

Decker '07

[jyms]

Funny thing about the opening ceremonies fail is 95% of Canada will just shrug it's shoulders and say "meh, shit happens". The world will forget about it in 3 days as well. If this happened in the US, you guys would shit fucking bricks and have the president asking for heads to roll for the embarrassment caused to the US people. The whole world would run with this in the press for weeks and you guys would never be able to not have a sore spot when it gets mentioned by a non US citizen for the next 10 years.

Canada's got two goals for this Olympics. IT's first gold medal on home soil EVER, and Olympic hockey gold as well. Try finding another country going into any Olympic games with that little expectation for a 35+million people. Life is good up here.

[wufwugy]

speaking of winter olympics

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/video/n...-crash-9823485

[Galapogos]

I honestly don't think it's a big deal.

It was a boring opening ceremony with a technical malfunction which caused an awkward pause. Not exactly "epic" material.

I think people just like to complain about stuff and/or forget that the olympics aren't all about the opening ceremonies.

Edit: Also, everyone should be happy the organizers didn't pull out the Celine Dione or Nickleback card

[a500lbgorilla]

Exactly, if the setting were a couple of latitudes southwards, there would be outrage!

[Warpe]

speaking of winter olympics

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/video/n...-crash-9823485

this was just awful. they're running the men's competition from the women's starting point for now and have erected a barrier where the accident happened. just sick.

[wufwugy]

do you know why the women have a shorter track? makes no sense to me....

[BennyLaRue]

do you know why the women have a shorter track? makes no sense to me....

Because generally, women are shorter than men, ldo.

[JL]

I guess the Winter Olympics isn't important enough to have its own thread...

[Chelle]

It's true that the Winter Olympics isn't important enough to have its own thread...

[lolzzz_321]

do you know why the women have a shorter track? makes no sense to me....

dont go as fast?

[givememyleg]

obv it's cuz women are inferior at sports n stuff

[boost]

do you know why the women have a shorter track? makes no sense to me....

dont go as fast?

well this would make them go even slower...

also women really should be faster than men in running/ice skating events seeing as their muscle mass is concentrated in their lower body.

[Warpe]

Canadians shoot left, Americans shoot right:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/16/sp...s/16lefty.html

[flomo]

Ben & Jerry's cheesecake brownie ice cream is tasty!

[bode]

Karmel Sutra > all other Ben and Jerry's, but i haven't tried the cheesecake brownie, so maybe i'm wrong. Flomo, you do know your food.

[Warpe]

[ ] has experienced a real winter

[BooG690]

Karmel Sutra > all other Ben and Jerry's, but i haven't tried the cheesecake brownie, so maybe i'm wrong. Flomo, you do know your food.

I visited the Ben & Jerry's factory this weekend in Vermont.

Anywho, being that I'm more of a Ben & Jerry's knower than everybody ITT (I've visited the factory), I'd like to let all know that Half-Baked is the bestest.

[jyms]

Half baked is good, but I was always partial to Bovinity Divinity

[givememyleg]

test test test

[realadmin]

tess test test

[boost]

I am not a very big fan of ben and jerry's. Hagan-daze ftw.

[bikes]

Breyers wtf!

[bikes]

Also not being able to type in caps lock makes me very unhappy. How am i supposed to unleash the fucking fury

[a500lbgorilla]

Canadians shoot left, Americans shoot right:

Hockey Stick Divide - Canada Leans Left, U.S. Right - NYTimes.com

I shoot left-handed as a right-handed American.

[Lukie]

i am so utterly sick of hearing about tiger woods.

i don't care. he cheated on his wife. it shouldn't be worldly news.

[wufwugy]

Agreed. I know as little as possible about the whole situation though. I loathe digging into other peoples' sex lives

[a500lbgorilla]

So I'm home sick today and in a shitty mood.

YouTube - Glenn Beck Inciting Violence w/ Blatant Lies & Fear Mongering

I don't like the young turks show because it tends to be pretty bad. But just listen to the clips about what Glenn Beck is saying. Because Canada is considering euthanasia that means that America is about to breach the subject of eugenics. Some poor woman calls in actually scared that because she's going on Disability...scared that her gov't is going to kill her. Seriously and literally, she's afraid Obama is heading down the path to kill her. End her life. Her very life. And Glenn does not say, "Hell no. There is zero chance this will ever happen to you." Beck dances around it. "He'd say, "No." But if you look at... blah blah... yeah, that's where he's headed."

HOW IS THIS MAN ALLOWED TO SPEAK TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE! SERIOUSLY FUCKING HOW!!!!!!


This. Is. DISGUSTING!

She even says something to the affect: "People care about me, you'd hope they would consider that. It's just really scary. Though I'm learning a lot listening to you."

DISGUSTING

I'm so fucking tired of Glenn Beck.

[wufwugy]

Wow

Why don't you like TYT? Do you know of a better online news show?

[a500lbgorilla]

I don't have a cogent argument for not liking them nor is my memory strong enough to recall all the times I click their links only to close them 30 seconds in. I just tend to toon in and not be very impressed with what I'm seeing.

[BooG690]

I liked how he used Sarah Palin's son as a pawn of who may be murdered to incite the emotions of all her mindless drones.

[a500lbgorilla]

On a less political subject. One of the best things on the internet: Justin (shitmydadsays) on Twitter

Is becoming a sitcom staring Willy Shatner: William Shatner in Shit My Dad Says

Also Ghostbusters 3: Ghostbusters III (2011)