Randomness thread, part two.

[rong]

lol retard strength. Not that you said it, just that it exists.

[MadMojoMonkey]

Yeah... I think most 5 year olds are not cognizant of their own limitations 99% of the time. Boys especially so. Girls are a bit more attuned to fitting in with the people and world around them than boys at that age. That may give them a slight edge on being aware of their physical limitations. Not sure.

There's a good chance of tears on any given recess during a kindergarten class. This age group is frequently accidentally hurting each other while playing - simply because they are not thinking of the consequences or limitations of their physical presence.


But seriously. You don't even need to kill one of 'em if it's irl 5-yo's because once one of them is afraid of you enough to cry (just fake some rage; you only have to sell it to the weakest link), then another one just starts crying. Before long they'd all be incapacitated wrecks of fear and helplessness.

But don't be fooled. They always feign a frontal assault. Their REAL attack is far more gruesome.

They surround you only to set up a perimeter. They assault you with the induced cacophony of whining and screaming that initially led you to believe your task was simple. Now you see the folly of your over-estimate. You are surrounded by a sea of thousands of screaming bastards, and each one causes a slow drain on HP over a wide area effect. As the reality of your situation sinks in you start to run through the din. That's when you realize that you can't ignore the smell any longer. It slowly pervades your consciousness until you are wholly focused on the fecund stench assaulting you. This delirium drops your movement rate by 1/2. We haven't even considered the elite corps that leaves toys and diapers littered in your path to slip and trip over.

The combined effect is enough to drop anyone once they reach a critical mass. Be cautious.

[JKDS]

BAHAHA, wp mmm

[jackvance]

I really like evolutionary game theory. I don't know if that's actually a thing, but it should be. Basically looking at the constraint life gives us from an evolutionary perspective dictates how our emotions are formed and even how we think. Classic example: how much our parents love us is completely a function of our fertility. Of course this can change depending on a million different factors, but the average over a large enough sample size is very clear. Your parents love you the most when you become fertile, and then it slowly goes down again.

In game theory terms, the affection parents feel for their offspring is that which ensures the best possible chance at said offspring passing on their parents' genes.

I have to say it's very desensitizing to investigate the world this way. Instead of being mysterious, everything follows plain old logic.

[rong]

JV wtf are you talking about regarding parents love and fertility? Splain please.

[kiwiMark]

Yeah... I think most 5 year olds are not cognizant of their own limitations 99% of the time.

it's not so much a conscious "welp this is all I can manage" thing as it is it would be incredibly easy to break their wills

[Savy]

Your parents love you the most when you become fertile, and then it slowly goes down again.

I guarantee my parents loved me more when I was very young than they did when I was a young teenager.

Sorry if I've completely misunderstood what you meant.

[kiwiMark]

seems less like plain old logic and more like deciding there being a reason behind a theory makes that theory true

[jackvance]

JV wtf are you talking about regarding parents love and fertility? Splain please.

If you draw a graph of the amount of love a parent has for their child plotted against the age of the child, you will see that the graph peaks at the moment the child becomes fertile. I don't know exactly how they measured love in this experiment, probably a combination of questionnaires and behavioral analysis. Every case of a parent loving their child a certain amount in itself is unique, but looking at enough examples you can find the hidden average.

In the game theory approach we're looking at these facts from the perspective of what the 'optimal amount of love'-strategy would be for a parent. So as it turns out this is dictated by fertility, to ensure the biggest chance of reproduction for their genes through their kids.


You can apply this evolutionary game theory concept to anything. Our WW game is riddled with normal confirmation bias if you know how to look for it. Confirmation bias is also the best learning strategy in a situation with lots of incomplete information. Another one, peer pressure exists because observing the behavior of others in things we aren't sure about is the best strategy to make snapshot judgment calls. If 9 people say one thing, and you say something else, you're statistically very likely to be wrong. Because of this you'll feel strong peer pressure to follow what others are doing. I saw an experiment on tv with a staged group where everyone gives the wrong answer to a simple math question 3x6=? and often the test subject will go against his own better judgment and follow them. All the while seriously doubting her own math skills.

None of the above is stuff I thought up myself by the way. I'm just trying to make sense of it to be able to apply it to other concepts.


Ok, my mind is going strange places here I know. But I'm actually seriously considering to make a doctorate based on some such ideas, that is why it is on my mind atm. So I'm posting some stuff to hear what other people think about this.

[kiwiMark]

Quantitatively measuring love seems much too difficult for the how it's done to just be swept under the rug like that. My second point of confusion is: where's the connection between my parents loving me "more" and the chances that I reproduce increasing, there seems to be a leap here. ie. why would "more" parental love help me fuck in the fronthole, to quote Doug Stanhope

[Savy]

Also it doesn't even make sense. From a parents love perspective keeping you alive whilst you are most vulnerable (i.e. a baby) increases the chances of you reproducing the most. What's the point of loving your child loads when they start being able to reproduce when a high % of your offspring die before they even reach that point. Especially when most young teenagers can keep themselves alive.

And let's not forget that giving birth is dangerous and used to kill a lot of women, so it's not like you can just have another go at it.

[jackvance]

Quantitatively measuring love seems much too difficult for the how it's done to just be swept under the rug like that. My second point of confusion is: where's the connection between my parents loving me "more" and the chances that I reproduce increasing, there seems to be a leap here. ie. why would "more" parental love help me fuck in the fronthole, to quote Doug Stanhope

On your first point, this is everyone's normal reaction but I've looked into the details of all kinds of different experiments over the years and I've always been impressed by how accurate these kinds of measurements can be. You have to give scientists and researchers more credit. They aren't idiots, they know what they are doing and they know how to interpret results statistically. A 95% confidence interval for example only requires 98 people. And all of these studies are peer reviewed, it's not like it's one guy blogging about his ideas he contocted in his mother's basement.

How more love helps the child reproduce better? In the most extreme case, let's say a parent can only save one of two children from dying. She'll save the one she loves the most. In reality it's very rare to be that extreme but the same still applies in terms of subtle preferencial treatment. There are a lot of confounding factors mind you. Such as a mother spending more time with the child that is the most helpless implies that you can't measure "love" by the amount of time spent on the child alone. This makes it difficult to reason about these matters from incidental experiences alone. Just searching your brain to try to find one counter-example from your memories is a really bad way to go about judging such experiments. Just a general observation there because I tend towards doing that too.

[jackvance]

Also it doesn't even make sense. From a parents love perspective keeping you alive whilst you are most vulnerable (i.e. a baby) increases the chances of you reproducing the most. What's the point of loving your child loads when they start being able to reproduce when a high % of your offspring die before they even reach that point. Especially when most young teenagers can keep themselves alive.

And let's not forget that giving birth is dangerous and used to kill a lot of women, so it's not like you can just have another go at it.

From a purely cold strategic perspective, think about only having food to support one child while having two. The first is 10 years old and the second only 2. Which one will you pick to ensure the greatest chance of the remaining child reproducing? The one that is close to being fertile or the one that will take 10 more years?

Think of it as a computer game where you have to 'run a family' and the objective is to maximize your chances of your remaining kid having kids of his/her own. Like one of those simulation games where you only see numbers.

[Chelle]

people are weird.

myself included.

all people are weird. in their own special little way.

[rong]

Perseid meteor shower is happening tonight. As like the only person in the world to have not seen a shooting star I'm quite excited. Clear skies are forecast and I live quite far out from a big city so I'm hoping for a good show.

[rong]

Sat outside for 10 minutes. Saw quite a few. Not the fireworks I was imagining but pretty cool nonetheless. Glad I've finally seen some.

[Savy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmuhFdeBBMs

@rong

No doubt people will tag the highlights at some point tomorrow.

edit - Just went out in the garden with my sister for about 30 mins, for the first 20mins or so we could juts see the odd one as there was loads of cloud cover, but after that we saw loads. Probably some of them were just normal stars and planes though tbf

[jackvance]

I went to the library to peruse if I could find something that peaked my interest. I came home with 5 books about evolution.

[bikes]

that song she did for Gatsby was actually really good.

A+

[Jack Sawyer]

f0lwYB9.jpg

This incredible photo marks the end of Matador Torero Alvaro Munera’s career. He collapsed in remorse mid-fight when he realized he was having to prompt this otherwise gentle beast to fight. He went on to become an avid opponent of bullfights. Even grievously wounded by picadors, he did not attack this man.
Torrero Munera is quoted as saying of this moment: “And suddenly, I looked at the bull. He had this innocence that all animals have in their eyes, and he looked at me with this pleading. It was like a cry for justice, deep down inside of me. I describe it as being like a prayer - because if one confesses, it is hoped, that one is forgiven. I felt like the worst shit on earth.”

[Galapogos]

Hey Jack, I think we've met IRL before. Aren't you every single mom I know that uses Facebook as their primary source of information?

http://www.snopes.com/photos/people/munera.asp

[Jack Sawyer]

LOL, Tumblr got me. Wp tumblr, wp

[Luco]

Gawd I fucking hate these fake shit emails and I'm glad snopes doesn't charge for usage

[Galapogos]

Gawd I fucking hate these fake shit emails and I'm glad snopes doesn't charge for usage

I have some chick on my friends list on Facebook that posts a steady stream of this stuff every day, none of it even remotely true, with some comment like, "OMG this is horrible!" or whatever mindless insight she has regarding the content. Yet she's signed up to a Facebook group called "Checking snopes.com before forwarding dumb e-mails."

[a500lbgorilla]

Hey Jack, I think we've met IRL before. Aren't you every single mom I know that uses Facebook as their primary source of information?

http://www.snopes.com/photos/people/munera.asp

Hahaha, nice. I've come across this pic/story too.

[a500lbgorilla]

LOL, Tumblr got me. Wp tumblr, wp

Gala, what he means to say is,

[Jack Sawyer]

Hahahahaha

[Chelle]

I've started going to snopes.com whenever someone posts some dumb shit - and then post that to whatever nonsense bullshit they re-posted because they didn't want to be smart enough to fucking look shit up.

Herpderpherpherpderp

[MadMojoMonkey]

[Galapogos]

My favorite thing about that gif is that little kid in the bottom left throwing it right back at him.

[kingnat]

I'm looking for some blog thing from like 5 years ago, about going on a "first date" with a new guy friend. It was hilarious. I think swig might've posted it. My googling turns up the wrong things. Little help?

[ariolis30]

anyone here use neteller??? i got some news if anyone is interested

[jackvance]

What is the news?

[Lukie]

Brussels sprouts

[bode]

Brussels sprouts

olive oil, salt, pepper, roast at 400 degrees = nom

[jyms]

olive oil, salt, pepper, roast at 400 degrees = nom

Toss fresh garlic too.

Brussel sprouts are one of my favourites, I don't eat them enough.

[MadMojoMonkey]

I have had a bit of a problem with tiny fruit flies in my apartment this year.

I mentioned this to my neighbor and he suggested a small bowl with apple cider vinegar and a drop of soap. Works like a charm. Dozens of dead flies in the bowls I left out in the kitchen. Apparently, the apple attracts them, the soap is to break the surface tension so they sink when they land. The vinegar kills them.

It does smell a bit funny in the kitchen, but it's not overwhelming.

[jyms]

I used a glass of red wine and it works the same way.

[Chelle]

oyster sauce - does it contain oysters?

[MadMojoMonkey]

After reading a wikipedia page, I know the answer. I bet it would take less time put this question to a search engine than a forum.

Oh yeah..

Probably made with cooked oysters unless it says vegetarian.

[rong]

There are some religious folk loitering outside my office with a little stand with various leaflets and a title at the top: what does the bible really teach?

Any suggestions for most entertaining course of action?

[Savy]

Make a sign saying "fgts bad, shrimp worse"

[Luco]

There are some religious folk loitering outside my office with a little stand with various leaflets and a title at the top: what does the bible really teach?

Any suggestions for most entertaining course of action?

A series of nonsensical questions about what the bible teaches?

- Can it teach you how to drive?
- Can it teach physics?
- Can it teach you how to softboil an egg?
- Can it teach you lovemaking?
- Can it teach my cat not to shit on the rug?

etc etc

[bikes]

people who chain call my phone for no reason can die in a fucking grease fire

[jackvance]

No reason? God always has a reason!

[rong]

Chain call?

[kiwiMark]

I also wanna know if this means repeatedly as in chain smoking or more of a IF YOU DO NOT OPEN THE PHONE BOOK AND DIAL THE 738TH NUMBER WITH THIS MESSAGE AT MIDNIGHT TONIGHT THE GURL U LUV WIL MARY A HAMSTER

[MadMojoMonkey]

Oh crap. Once she finds out she CAN marry a hamster, there's nothing I could do to stop her.

[bikes]

I also wanna know if this means repeatedly as in chain smoking or more of a IF YOU DO NOT OPEN THE PHONE BOOK AND DIAL THE 738TH NUMBER WITH THIS MESSAGE AT MIDNIGHT TONIGHT THE GURL U LUV WIL MARY A HAMSTER

repeatedly. as in chain smoking

[Jack Sawyer]

Nba Jam?

[MadMojoMonkey]

Click around on wikipedia long enough and you might find anything.

Pelion is not a man, but a mountain in Greece.

Mostly, I am surprised mountains play poker.

[jackvance]

MMM=drunk?

[wufwugy]

- Can it teach you how to drive?

2 Kings 2:11

- Can it teach physics?

Genesis 1:3

- Can it teach you how to softboil an egg?

Exodus 23:19

- Can it teach you lovemaking?

Song of Songs

- Can it teach my cat not to shit on the rug?

Genesis 1:26

[jyms]

Ya, I'm not looking that up. Can someone find the passages?

[wufwugy]

The verses were all from memory

2 Kings/driving one is when Elisha watched Elijah ride a chariot into the sky, Genesis/physics one is God creating light and Heaven and Earth, Exodus/food one is about not cooking milk and meat together, Song of Songs is a bunch of romance stuff, and last Genesis/cat one is about Man ruling over the beasts of the field

Sounds dumb (which it is), but American Protestant pastors give sermons like that. I sat through so many I swear I heard the one about how God taught your cat how to not shit on the rug when he made Man reign over them. They explain whatever they want with non sequitur

[Chelle]

dat bible.

[bikes]

TIL cum omelettes actually exist

[rong]

Why did I google it, I mean it was obvious what it was.

[Lukie]

friendly advice: resist the urge to start googling

[Lukie]

Why did I google it, I mean it was obvious what it was.

it seems like we both learned the same lesson.

[d0zer]

There's that cum cookbook. Lots of great recipes for cooking with spooge.

[boost]

I saw a flash version, it was abbreviated. Is the full version actually uncut? This isn't just egg whites? I don't know why, but I have a hard time believing that it would coagulate the same as eggs-- but then again, the chemical composition can't be all that much different from egg whites, I guess...

Also, you guys are some pussies. While extremely gross, it was far more towards the comical end of the spectrum than say Two Girls; One Cup.

[boost]

TIL cum omelettes actually exist

I have to ask: Did they previously exist in your imagination?

[bikes]

I have to ask: Did they previously exist in your imagination?

Sort of. When I was in high school we used the phrase "I'm gonna jizz in you eggs", where as it's not the same thing, close enough I suppose.

[boost]

Was this used as a threat or a congratulatory notice of impending reward?

[kiwiMark]

Teen pregnancy was just rampant.

[bikes]

ben affleck is the new batman and as such i hate everything in the world now.

[boost]

I, like most everyone else, have come to like Affleck. He has done a great job of rebuilding his career from the ashes that are Gigli-- but I cannot accept him as the new Batman. It is not the first and it is not april. Stop fucking with me Bikes.

[wufwugy]

Just watch, he'll be the best Batman. It's not like there's much to live up to. People think Throat Cancer Bale was good because they're in love with Batman, not because he was good.

Just imagine how great Batman would be if it was written as a drama. The story works amazingly for drama, not action. So far, every team has failed at making Batman what it should be, even Nolan. Begins was pretty good, TDK was saved by Heath, and TDKR is only as good as how rock hard are the erections of the expectant fans

[boost]

Very good points. It's just that I've never seen Affleck play anything dark. He just has such a cheerful frat boyish persona.

I wasn't a huge fan of Keaton. He was good, but, he also sorta had that too clean cheerful personality. I think Bale was the best so far. I do think that the voice was over done though. If Batman had far fewer and shorter lines, it would have been great-- but when he's speaking in multiple sentences... ugh...

[wufwugy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5xGvkI2K8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQJuGeqdbn4

I rest my case

[boost]

Ha, ok, yeah, I probably need to rewatch the Keaton Batmans.

[bikes]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5xGvkI2K8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQJuGeqdbn4

I rest my case

thank you for these.

[NightGizmo]

ben affleck is the new batman and as such i hate everything in the world now.

I just learned this today, too, and I'm pretty pissed.

[Galapogos]

I don't see why everyone's so upset. Ben Affleck can act, people just associate him too much with a few really shitty films he has been involved in.

I personally would rather see a relative unknown get the role, but if studios want a big name to bring in more fans I have no problem with him being their choice.